WelshDevilRob Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 I'd always really gone with Edwin Valero but seen as he's no longer with us I'm now unsure who is. So who do you think is the P4P hardest hitter or even hardest hitter in there paticular division? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamasadlittleboy Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 Jhonny Gonzalez deserves a shout....Ponce De Leon too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapevine241 Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 segura seems to be quite a puncher. donaire, pacquiao, klitschkos... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemurphy Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 I'm with Grapevine, I think I'd go with Segura. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_budweiser Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 segura seems to be quite a puncher. donaire, pacquiao, klitschkos... Klitschkos Vitali won 42 (KO 39) Wladimir won 55 (KO 49) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAZZ-MCFC Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 well technically the pound for pound hardest puncher has to be Vitali, just look at his KO percentage i mean obviously a lot of them came from attrition and wearing down his opponent but still, there's no real way of judging the pound for pound hardest puncher it's merely opinion i think Valero was a massive shout, Maidana also i would say, as well as Gamboa not being biased but i'd also put David Haye in there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapevine241 Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 i always thought valero's power was a bit overrated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Giovanni Segura is great striker also David Lemieux.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siren1927 Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 The thing with Segura is that his KO's come from a combination of Punches rather than one clean shot. Personally I would put Donaire right at the top of thist at the moment. Sergio Martinez anyone? Seems to have found his punching power in his last 2 fightts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edsel77x Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Valero. Massive massive puncher! He threw nearly every shot with bad intentions. But the facts clearly state that the Klit's are the hardest punchers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brooklynbrawler Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 i always thought valero's power was a bit overrated Ask every single one of his opponents if that was the case... mlol/ He was crude early in his career, but there was no doubting he had power, infact freakishly so for a guy so small... Shame how things turned out because he was destined for far bigger things. Lemieux has to be up there among the best now. 24 KO's in 25 fights, although he's only recently started stepping up in class. We'll see if it's the same tale in a couple of years time, but I suspect it will. Vitali is the same. Again not single big punches, but apparently packing a jab that feels like a freight train. Martinez seems to have found his level at middleweight, but he's fought very few natural middleweights to be able to judge his power fairly. I don't think he's up there P4P anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapevine241 Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 i always thought valero's power was a bit overrated Ask every single one of his opponents if that was the case... mlol/ He was crude early in his career, but there was no doubting he had power, infact freakishly so for a guy so small... Shame how things turned out because he was destined for far bigger things. Lemieux has to be up there among the best now. 24 KO's in 25 fights, although he's only recently started stepping up in class. We'll see if it's the same tale in a couple of years time, but I suspect it will. Vitali is the same. Again not single big punches, but apparently packing a jab that feels like a freight train. Martinez seems to have found his level at middleweight, but he's fought very few natural middleweights to be able to judge his power fairly. I don't think he's up there P4P anyway... yeah but valero was basically knocking out bums for his entire career Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ko Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Yer Valero hit hard but his big step up was Demarco and he didnt look like a monster puncher. I think Abrahams up there he is ko'd some people badly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamasadlittleboy Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Lopez and Gamboa need mentions too...Gamboa probably doesn't hit as hard but his shots even off balance seem to drop guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siren1927 Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Would Pavlik still be considered? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshDevilRob Posted April 6, 2011 Author Share Posted April 6, 2011 Would Pavlik still be considered? Yes, I think he should. Very hard hitting. The hardest hitter P4P is probably a guy that hasn't got a belt. Earnie Shavers never had one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAZZ-MCFC Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 I think Abrahams up there he is ko'd some people badly. Abraham! Lopez and Gamboa need mentions too...Gamboa probably doesn't hit as hard but his shots even off balance seem to drop guys. would definitely second this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edsel77x Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Oh shit I forgot Lopez! Of course! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAZZ-MCFC Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Oh shit I forgot Lopez! Of course! call yourself a Juanma fan! Part timer ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamasadlittleboy Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Would Pavlik still be considered? Yes, I think he should. Very hard hitting. The hardest hitter P4P is probably a guy that hasn't got a belt. Earnie Shavers never had one. Thats why I said Gonzalez, 47-7 (41), dropped Nishioka when the two met as well. Last 13 fights haven't gone the distance. 4 of his 10 distance fights were in his first 6 career fights... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edsel77x Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Would Pavlik still be considered? For me, Pavlik was immortalized after taking the wallop from Taylor and getting back up and pounding the guy like he did. Remember, this is the same guy who had, "Turn back the clock Hopkins" number, TWICE! I'm a huge fan of Pavlik, make concessions for him and still view him as a bad a** Muther Fuc***. Can't wait for him to jump back in again. Bute Froch loves him too! Ward Kessler and even a rematch with Martinez would make a great showing regardless of what Joe Public thinks. Guy had a shot with massive heart!! I love it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edsel77x Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Oh shit I forgot Lopez! Of course! call yourself a Juanma fan! Part timer ;) finger// mlol/ mlol/ mlol/ mlol/ mlol/ mlol/ you got me you son of...gun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londoner Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 I suppose it depends on if KO ratio or one punch power is what we're going by primarily. Vitali Klitschko probably has the highest KO ratio out there today considering the length of his career and calibre of opponents (Lemiuex has a 96% KO ratio but his career is at the start and his opponents haven't been top notch). But, i can't remember when i last saw him KO a guy with one punch. Calzaghe had a good KO ratio but i don't ever remember him knocking anyone out cold. Guys who spring to mind who are sending guys flying across the ring include Kirkland, Lopez, Gamboa, Donaire, Pacquiao, Abraham (at 160lbs)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamasadlittleboy Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 WTF How did we forget Angulo? O_o Cintron hits hard too, the Matthysse brothers too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londoner Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 WTF How did we forget Angulo? O_o Cintron hits hard too, the Matthysse brothers too Those guys deserve a mention too. Also: Frenkel, Cloud, Maidana, Katsidis, Vazquez Jr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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