Floyd Mayweather vs Manny Pacquiao 2012 Boxing Promo [VIDEO]

[Joe Ko]

 

My best video yet??

[McBride]

Hmm, if its your best video yet Joe, it isn't very well balanced. Its like a montage of KO / KD highlights. The 2 fighters are completely different. Why not show Mayweather making guys look foolish by his defensive wizardry, if your gonna show Pakow's punch power?

[Joe Ko]

Hmm, if its your best video yet Joe, it isn't very well balanced. Its like a montage of KO / KD highlights. The 2 fighters are completely different. Why not show Mayweather making guys look foolish by his defensive wizardry, if your gonna show Pakow's punch power?

 

I could have done that but its fitting it with the music aswell, best video in terms of some of the effects especially montage towards the end that took awhile to piece together, with colour changing when punches land.

[brooklynbrawler]

Aye, I thought some of the effects and editing were quite nice on it man, good effort!

[akutabi]

I haven't seen your other ones but I quite liked this one.

[iamasadlittleboy]

I haven't seen your other ones but I quite liked this one.

 

They are all worth checking out TBH, he's damned good at them.

[McBride]

Hmm, if its your best video yet Joe, it isn't very well balanced. Its like a montage of KO / KD highlights. The 2 fighters are completely different. Why not show Mayweather making guys look foolish by his defensive wizardry, if your gonna show Pakow's punch power?

 

I could have done that but its fitting it with the music aswell, best video in terms of some of the effects especially montage towards the end that took awhile to piece together, with colour changing when punches land.

 

No problem man.

 

I thought it was like a preview much like the TV companies do, I didn't realise it was more an example of your artistic ability.

 

If that is indeed the case, then Yes, its very good.

[Joe Ko]

Hmm, if its your best video yet Joe, it isn't very well balanced. Its like a montage of KO / KD highlights. The 2 fighters are completely different. Why not show Mayweather making guys look foolish by his defensive wizardry, if your gonna show Pakow's punch power?

 

I could have done that but its fitting it with the music aswell, best video in terms of some of the effects especially montage towards the end that took awhile to piece together, with colour changing when punches land.

 

No problem man.

 

I thought it was like a preview much like the TV companies do, I didn't realise it was more an example of your artistic ability.

 

If that is indeed the case, then Yes, its very good.

 

Thing with the tv ones there only 30 seconds max, its just something different, there are not many boxing video promo/previews on youtube, the big companys need to start making them because they can get over 100k views like on some of my videos

[sandra]

Pac/Floyd would definitely going to be a WAR!! But no one really knows when will this match going to take place (or is it really gonna happen???).. But I'm still hoping that both parties will settle their deals very soon coz I'm sick and tired of waiting!! but there's a rumor that is gonna take place after floyd's fight with ortiz and pacman's with marquez.. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.. hooo... and I know you guys don't wanna miss the two upcoming fights, floyd on sep. 17 and pacman on nov. 12. just wanna share this tip to ya fellas,, check this out and you might see the pacquiao-marquez fight in person... ciao :P

boxing4//

[RAZZ-MCFC]

Can always rely on McBride to stir it up mlol/

[McBride]

In all fairness RAZZ, I dont need to. With Sandra claiming Pakow / Mayweather will be a WAR she has taken the mantle.

 

Erm!!!! When was the last / first time Mayweather was ever in a war?

[RAZZ-MCFC]

In all fairness RAZZ, I dont need to. With Sandra claiming Pakow / Mayweather will be a WAR she has taken the mantle.

 

Erm!!!! When was the last / first time Mayweather was ever in a war?

 

It's these Pac nuthuggers you see my good sir, they think every fight Manny is involved in is going to be a war. They don't realise all of his fights since JMM have been against come forward punch bags.

[Wheelchair]

Manny vs Floyd has the potential to be a real stinker of a fight. High expectations of the fans, combined with both fighters being cagier than normal will make for a right snorefest.

 

I hope I'm wrong, but TBH, I don't think it's a fight we'll ever see. Floyd will take the Khan fight IMO.

[Skav]

In all fairness RAZZ, I dont need to. With Sandra claiming Pakow / Mayweather will be a WAR she has taken the mantle.

 

Erm!!!! When was the last / first time Mayweather was ever in a war?

 

It's these Pac nuthuggers you see my good sir, they think every fight Manny is involved in is going to be a war. They don't realise all of his fights since JMM have been against come forward punch bags.

 

And what has Mayweather done since 2005?

[RAZZ-MCFC]

In all fairness RAZZ, I dont need to. With Sandra claiming Pakow / Mayweather will be a WAR she has taken the mantle.

 

Erm!!!! When was the last / first time Mayweather was ever in a war?

 

It's these Pac nuthuggers you see my good sir, they think every fight Manny is involved in is going to be a war. They don't realise all of his fights since JMM have been against come forward punch bags.

 

And what has Mayweather done since 2005?

 

Where in my post do i mention Mayweather, i'm not talking about Floyd, i'm talking about Manny. You don't have to bash Floyd every time Manny is mentioned, i wasn't crediting or discrediting anything Floyd's done.

[Skav]

In all fairness RAZZ, I dont need to. With Sandra claiming Pakow / Mayweather will be a WAR she has taken the mantle.

 

Erm!!!! When was the last / first time Mayweather was ever in a war?

 

It's these Pac nuthuggers you see my good sir, they think every fight Manny is involved in is going to be a war. They don't realise all of his fights since JMM have been against come forward punch bags.

 

And what has Mayweather done since 2005?

 

Where in my post do i mention Mayweather, i'm not talking about Floyd, i'm talking about Manny. You don't have to bash Floyd every time Manny is mentioned, i wasn't crediting or discrediting anything Floyd's done.

 

Cagey (a bit like your hero) response. Fair enough, you refuse to answer.

[RAZZ-MCFC]

In all fairness RAZZ, I dont need to. With Sandra claiming Pakow / Mayweather will be a WAR she has taken the mantle.

 

Erm!!!! When was the last / first time Mayweather was ever in a war?

 

It's these Pac nuthuggers you see my good sir, they think every fight Manny is involved in is going to be a war. They don't realise all of his fights since JMM have been against come forward punch bags.

 

And what has Mayweather done since 2005?

 

Where in my post do i mention Mayweather, i'm not talking about Floyd, i'm talking about Manny. You don't have to bash Floyd every time Manny is mentioned, i wasn't crediting or discrediting anything Floyd's done.

 

Cagey (a bit like your hero) response. Fair enough, you refuse to answer.

 

Refuse to answer? What's the point in the question though, there isn't any point because i never mentioned Floyd to begin with. You could of asked me about anyone in response to what i said, why not what has Cotto done since 2005 or what has Shane Mosley done since 2005. Just a very random question.

[Skav]

In all fairness RAZZ, I dont need to. With Sandra claiming Pakow / Mayweather will be a WAR she has taken the mantle.

 

Erm!!!! When was the last / first time Mayweather was ever in a war?

 

It's these Pac nuthuggers you see my good sir, they think every fight Manny is involved in is going to be a war. They don't realise all of his fights since JMM have been against come forward punch bags.

 

And what has Mayweather done since 2005?

 

Where in my post do i mention Mayweather, i'm not talking about Floyd, i'm talking about Manny. You don't have to bash Floyd every time Manny is mentioned, i wasn't crediting or discrediting anything Floyd's done.

 

Cagey (a bit like your hero) response. Fair enough, you refuse to answer.

 

Refuse to answer? What's the point in the question though, there isn't any point because i never mentioned Floyd to begin with. You could of asked me about anyone in response to what i said, why not what has Cotto done since 2005 or what has Shane Mosley done since 2005. Just a very random question.

 

"Nuthugger" is a derogatory term for a fan, whether it's been around for a long time or not and it's quite clear you were making fun of either Manny or his fans, so why can't I turn it around and raise questions about Floyd? Last time I looked this thread was about Manny AND Floyd. Don't worry, I won't ask the question again. To suit your personal needs, we'll keep the subject on Manny and I'll counter your original point instead with this: At least he's fought the opponents that the public demanded and wanted to see.

[RAZZ-MCFC]

In all fairness RAZZ, I dont need to. With Sandra claiming Pakow / Mayweather will be a WAR she has taken the mantle.

 

Erm!!!! When was the last / first time Mayweather was ever in a war?

 

It's these Pac nuthuggers you see my good sir, they think every fight Manny is involved in is going to be a war. They don't realise all of his fights since JMM have been against come forward punch bags.

 

And what has Mayweather done since 2005?

 

Where in my post do i mention Mayweather, i'm not talking about Floyd, i'm talking about Manny. You don't have to bash Floyd every time Manny is mentioned, i wasn't crediting or discrediting anything Floyd's done.

 

Cagey (a bit like your hero) response. Fair enough, you refuse to answer.

 

Refuse to answer? What's the point in the question though, there isn't any point because i never mentioned Floyd to begin with. You could of asked me about anyone in response to what i said, why not what has Cotto done since 2005 or what has Shane Mosley done since 2005. Just a very random question.

 

"Nuthugger" is a derogatory term for a fan, whether it's been around for a long time or not and it's quite clear you were making fun of either Manny or his fans, so why can't I turn it around and raise questions about Floyd? Last time I looked this thread was about Manny AND Floyd. Don't worry, I won't ask the question again. To suit your personal needs, we'll keep the subject on Manny and I'll counter your original point instead with this: At least he's fought the opponents that the public demanded and wanted to see.

 

I'm not avoiding any questions, i'll happily answer, just wanted to know why you randomly brought it up whilst quoting my post.

 

Well i know for a fact you're going to pick holes in whatever i say but after 2005 he beat Oscar which regardless of what people say, was a fantastic win. He went up to Oscar's weight and dethroned him.

 

He beat Hatton who was undefeated. Yeah you could say Hatton was made for Floyd, it's easy to say now that you never gave Hatton a chance against Floyd but the fact is a lot of people picked Ricky to win and like it or not, he was undefeated and a dangerous opponent.

 

Shane Mosley was coming off a devasting victory over Margarito who everybody is adamant Floyd ducked. Everybody then accused Floyd of ducking Shane, so what did he do? Fought him, schooled him and then all the haters came back out saying yeah but Shane's past it, Shane's old.

 

He absolutely schooled Marquez who's the best boxer in the game today except Floyd, and was P4P number 3. Nobody has ever made Marquez look that poor and that ordinary. Yes you could argue Floyd didn't stick to the weight rules and Marquez was out of his own weight class, but even if they weighed in exactly the same on fight night, Floyd would have still boxed his socks off.

 

Let's face it Lee, you're never going to give Floyd his credit or his dues. You're more than likely going to discredit everything i've just said because of your dislike for him.

 

Oh and at the time, i forget if it was Baldomir or Judah, either way one of them was the lineal champ when Floyd fought them. I'm sure it was Baldomir. That's a decent feat in itself. Fair enough Baldomir's never exactly been a great champion, but he was still the number 2 in the division at the time.

[Skav]

In all fairness RAZZ, I dont need to. With Sandra claiming Pakow / Mayweather will be a WAR she has taken the mantle.

 

Erm!!!! When was the last / first time Mayweather was ever in a war?

 

It's these Pac nuthuggers you see my good sir, they think every fight Manny is involved in is going to be a war. They don't realise all of his fights since JMM have been against come forward punch bags.

 

And what has Mayweather done since 2005?

 

Where in my post do i mention Mayweather, i'm not talking about Floyd, i'm talking about Manny. You don't have to bash Floyd every time Manny is mentioned, i wasn't crediting or discrediting anything Floyd's done.

 

Cagey (a bit like your hero) response. Fair enough, you refuse to answer.

 

Refuse to answer? What's the point in the question though, there isn't any point because i never mentioned Floyd to begin with. You could of asked me about anyone in response to what i said, why not what has Cotto done since 2005 or what has Shane Mosley done since 2005. Just a very random question.

 

"Nuthugger" is a derogatory term for a fan, whether it's been around for a long time or not and it's quite clear you were making fun of either Manny or his fans, so why can't I turn it around and raise questions about Floyd? Last time I looked this thread was about Manny AND Floyd. Don't worry, I won't ask the question again. To suit your personal needs, we'll keep the subject on Manny and I'll counter your original point instead with this: At least he's fought the opponents that the public demanded and wanted to see.

 

I'm not avoiding any questions, i'll happily answer, just wanted to know why you randomly brought it up whilst quoting my post.

 

Well i know for a fact you're going to pick holes in whatever i say but after 2005 he beat Oscar which regardless of what people say, was a fantastic win. He went up to Oscar's weight and dethroned him.

 

He beat Hatton who was undefeated. Yeah you could say Hatton was made for Floyd, it's easy to say now that you never gave Hatton a chance against Floyd but the fact is a lot of people picked Ricky to win and like it or not, he was undefeated and a dangerous opponent.

 

Shane Mosley was coming off a devasting victory over Margarito who everybody is adamant Floyd ducked. Everybody then accused Floyd of ducking Shane, so what did he do? Fought him, schooled him and then all the haters came back out saying yeah but Shane's past it, Shane's old.

 

He absolutely schooled Marquez who's the best boxer in the game today except Floyd, and was P4P number 3. Nobody has ever made Marquez look that poor and that ordinary. Yes you could argue Floyd didn't stick to the weight rules and Marquez was out of his own weight class, but even if they weighed in exactly the same on fight night, Floyd would have still boxed his socks off.

 

Let's face it Lee, you're never going to give Floyd his credit or his dues. You're more than likely going to discredit everything i've just said because of your dislike for him.

 

Oh and at the time, i forget if it was Baldomir or Judah, either way one of them was the lineal champ when Floyd fought them. I'm sure it was Baldomir. That's a decent feat in itself. Fair enough Baldomir's never exactly been a great champion, but he was still the number 2 in the division at the time.

 

Actually, I'm not going to bother dissecting what you said because it's pointless.

 

I'll just say that if you compare his LWW and WW reigns with his LW one then you may find that it's pretty poor in comparison.

[RAZZ-MCFC]

In all fairness RAZZ, I dont need to. With Sandra claiming Pakow / Mayweather will be a WAR she has taken the mantle.

 

Erm!!!! When was the last / first time Mayweather was ever in a war?

 

It's these Pac nuthuggers you see my good sir, they think every fight Manny is involved in is going to be a war. They don't realise all of his fights since JMM have been against come forward punch bags.

 

And what has Mayweather done since 2005?

 

Where in my post do i mention Mayweather, i'm not talking about Floyd, i'm talking about Manny. You don't have to bash Floyd every time Manny is mentioned, i wasn't crediting or discrediting anything Floyd's done.

 

Cagey (a bit like your hero) response. Fair enough, you refuse to answer.

 

Refuse to answer? What's the point in the question though, there isn't any point because i never mentioned Floyd to begin with. You could of asked me about anyone in response to what i said, why not what has Cotto done since 2005 or what has Shane Mosley done since 2005. Just a very random question.

 

"Nuthugger" is a derogatory term for a fan, whether it's been around for a long time or not and it's quite clear you were making fun of either Manny or his fans, so why can't I turn it around and raise questions about Floyd? Last time I looked this thread was about Manny AND Floyd. Don't worry, I won't ask the question again. To suit your personal needs, we'll keep the subject on Manny and I'll counter your original point instead with this: At least he's fought the opponents that the public demanded and wanted to see.

 

I'm not avoiding any questions, i'll happily answer, just wanted to know why you randomly brought it up whilst quoting my post.

 

Well i know for a fact you're going to pick holes in whatever i say but after 2005 he beat Oscar which regardless of what people say, was a fantastic win. He went up to Oscar's weight and dethroned him.

 

He beat Hatton who was undefeated. Yeah you could say Hatton was made for Floyd, it's easy to say now that you never gave Hatton a chance against Floyd but the fact is a lot of people picked Ricky to win and like it or not, he was undefeated and a dangerous opponent.

 

Shane Mosley was coming off a devasting victory over Margarito who everybody is adamant Floyd ducked. Everybody then accused Floyd of ducking Shane, so what did he do? Fought him, schooled him and then all the haters came back out saying yeah but Shane's past it, Shane's old.

 

He absolutely schooled Marquez who's the best boxer in the game today except Floyd, and was P4P number 3. Nobody has ever made Marquez look that poor and that ordinary. Yes you could argue Floyd didn't stick to the weight rules and Marquez was out of his own weight class, but even if they weighed in exactly the same on fight night, Floyd would have still boxed his socks off.

 

Let's face it Lee, you're never going to give Floyd his credit or his dues. You're more than likely going to discredit everything i've just said because of your dislike for him.

 

Oh and at the time, i forget if it was Baldomir or Judah, either way one of them was the lineal champ when Floyd fought them. I'm sure it was Baldomir. That's a decent feat in itself. Fair enough Baldomir's never exactly been a great champion, but he was still the number 2 in the division at the time.

 

Actually, I'm not going to bother dissecting what you said because it's pointless.

 

I'll just say that if you compare his LWW and WW reigns with his LW one then you may find that it's pretty poor in comparison.

 

You can dissect whatever you want, i know holes are there to be picked at, but it's the same with Manny's record for the past 6-7 fights, people just get sucked in to the hype with him.

 

I never said this run was as impressive as his lightweight one, because it obviously and quite clearly isn't, but to discredit him saying he's done nothing since 2005 is plain absurd. Just my opinion though.

 

Just remember if you dissect what i put forward, you'll be discrediting everyone of Manny's past opponents anyway, with the exception of Baldomir.

[Skav]

In all fairness RAZZ, I dont need to. With Sandra claiming Pakow / Mayweather will be a WAR she has taken the mantle.

 

Erm!!!! When was the last / first time Mayweather was ever in a war?

 

It's these Pac nuthuggers you see my good sir, they think every fight Manny is involved in is going to be a war. They don't realise all of his fights since JMM have been against come forward punch bags.

 

And what has Mayweather done since 2005?

 

Where in my post do i mention Mayweather, i'm not talking about Floyd, i'm talking about Manny. You don't have to bash Floyd every time Manny is mentioned, i wasn't crediting or discrediting anything Floyd's done.

 

Cagey (a bit like your hero) response. Fair enough, you refuse to answer.

 

Refuse to answer? What's the point in the question though, there isn't any point because i never mentioned Floyd to begin with. You could of asked me about anyone in response to what i said, why not what has Cotto done since 2005 or what has Shane Mosley done since 2005. Just a very random question.

 

"Nuthugger" is a derogatory term for a fan, whether it's been around for a long time or not and it's quite clear you were making fun of either Manny or his fans, so why can't I turn it around and raise questions about Floyd? Last time I looked this thread was about Manny AND Floyd. Don't worry, I won't ask the question again. To suit your personal needs, we'll keep the subject on Manny and I'll counter your original point instead with this: At least he's fought the opponents that the public demanded and wanted to see.

 

I'm not avoiding any questions, i'll happily answer, just wanted to know why you randomly brought it up whilst quoting my post.

 

Well i know for a fact you're going to pick holes in whatever i say but after 2005 he beat Oscar which regardless of what people say, was a fantastic win. He went up to Oscar's weight and dethroned him.

 

He beat Hatton who was undefeated. Yeah you could say Hatton was made for Floyd, it's easy to say now that you never gave Hatton a chance against Floyd but the fact is a lot of people picked Ricky to win and like it or not, he was undefeated and a dangerous opponent.

 

Shane Mosley was coming off a devasting victory over Margarito who everybody is adamant Floyd ducked. Everybody then accused Floyd of ducking Shane, so what did he do? Fought him, schooled him and then all the haters came back out saying yeah but Shane's past it, Shane's old.

 

He absolutely schooled Marquez who's the best boxer in the game today except Floyd, and was P4P number 3. Nobody has ever made Marquez look that poor and that ordinary. Yes you could argue Floyd didn't stick to the weight rules and Marquez was out of his own weight class, but even if they weighed in exactly the same on fight night, Floyd would have still boxed his socks off.

 

Let's face it Lee, you're never going to give Floyd his credit or his dues. You're more than likely going to discredit everything i've just said because of your dislike for him.

 

Oh and at the time, i forget if it was Baldomir or Judah, either way one of them was the lineal champ when Floyd fought them. I'm sure it was Baldomir. That's a decent feat in itself. Fair enough Baldomir's never exactly been a great champion, but he was still the number 2 in the division at the time.

 

Actually, I'm not going to bother dissecting what you said because it's pointless.

 

I'll just say that if you compare his LWW and WW reigns with his LW one then you may find that it's pretty poor in comparison.

 

You can dissect whatever you want, i know holes are there to be picked at, but it's the same with Manny's record for the past 6-7 fights, people just get sucked in to the hype with him.

 

I never said this run was as impressive as his lightweight one, because it obviously and quite clearly isn't, but to discredit him saying he's done nothing since 2005 is plain absurd. Just my opinion though.

 

Just remember if you dissect what i put forward, you'll be discrediting everyone of Manny's past opponents anyway, with the exception of Baldomir.

 

I didn't say that he hasn't done anything at all, I'm saying his reign since 2005 is much to be desired. And how would I be discrediting Manny's past opponents if I pick on Floyd? Are you going to quote him and say that Manny's been fighting Floyd's leftovers?

[RAZZ-MCFC]

In all fairness RAZZ, I dont need to. With Sandra claiming Pakow / Mayweather will be a WAR she has taken the mantle.

 

Erm!!!! When was the last / first time Mayweather was ever in a war?

 

It's these Pac nuthuggers you see my good sir, they think every fight Manny is involved in is going to be a war. They don't realise all of his fights since JMM have been against come forward punch bags.

 

And what has Mayweather done since 2005?

 

Where in my post do i mention Mayweather, i'm not talking about Floyd, i'm talking about Manny. You don't have to bash Floyd every time Manny is mentioned, i wasn't crediting or discrediting anything Floyd's done.

 

Cagey (a bit like your hero) response. Fair enough, you refuse to answer.

 

Refuse to answer? What's the point in the question though, there isn't any point because i never mentioned Floyd to begin with. You could of asked me about anyone in response to what i said, why not what has Cotto done since 2005 or what has Shane Mosley done since 2005. Just a very random question.

 

"Nuthugger" is a derogatory term for a fan, whether it's been around for a long time or not and it's quite clear you were making fun of either Manny or his fans, so why can't I turn it around and raise questions about Floyd? Last time I looked this thread was about Manny AND Floyd. Don't worry, I won't ask the question again. To suit your personal needs, we'll keep the subject on Manny and I'll counter your original point instead with this: At least he's fought the opponents that the public demanded and wanted to see.

 

I'm not avoiding any questions, i'll happily answer, just wanted to know why you randomly brought it up whilst quoting my post.

 

Well i know for a fact you're going to pick holes in whatever i say but after 2005 he beat Oscar which regardless of what people say, was a fantastic win. He went up to Oscar's weight and dethroned him.

 

He beat Hatton who was undefeated. Yeah you could say Hatton was made for Floyd, it's easy to say now that you never gave Hatton a chance against Floyd but the fact is a lot of people picked Ricky to win and like it or not, he was undefeated and a dangerous opponent.

 

Shane Mosley was coming off a devasting victory over Margarito who everybody is adamant Floyd ducked. Everybody then accused Floyd of ducking Shane, so what did he do? Fought him, schooled him and then all the haters came back out saying yeah but Shane's past it, Shane's old.

 

He absolutely schooled Marquez who's the best boxer in the game today except Floyd, and was P4P number 3. Nobody has ever made Marquez look that poor and that ordinary. Yes you could argue Floyd didn't stick to the weight rules and Marquez was out of his own weight class, but even if they weighed in exactly the same on fight night, Floyd would have still boxed his socks off.

 

Let's face it Lee, you're never going to give Floyd his credit or his dues. You're more than likely going to discredit everything i've just said because of your dislike for him.

 

Oh and at the time, i forget if it was Baldomir or Judah, either way one of them was the lineal champ when Floyd fought them. I'm sure it was Baldomir. That's a decent feat in itself. Fair enough Baldomir's never exactly been a great champion, but he was still the number 2 in the division at the time.

 

Actually, I'm not going to bother dissecting what you said because it's pointless.

 

I'll just say that if you compare his LWW and WW reigns with his LW one then you may find that it's pretty poor in comparison.

 

You can dissect whatever you want, i know holes are there to be picked at, but it's the same with Manny's record for the past 6-7 fights, people just get sucked in to the hype with him.

 

I never said this run was as impressive as his lightweight one, because it obviously and quite clearly isn't, but to discredit him saying he's done nothing since 2005 is plain absurd. Just my opinion though.

 

Just remember if you dissect what i put forward, you'll be discrediting everyone of Manny's past opponents anyway, with the exception of Baldomir.

 

I didn't say that he hasn't done anything at all, I'm saying his reign since 2005 is much to be desired. And how would I be discrediting Manny's past opponents if I pick on Floyd? Are you going to quote him and say that Manny's been fighting Floyd's leftovers?[/quote:e216736b25]

 

What i'm saying, is that if you discredit wins against the likes of Hatton, Oscar, Shane and Marquez, then you're effectively discrediting Manny's wins against those very same names. You could argue that Manny was at the same weight as Marquez but then you could also argue that he was lucky to get a win and a draw out of both meetings with him.

[Sheils]

With a promo vid like that the fight has to happen!

 

However, if Floyd goes for Khan (as Wheelchair suggests) then it won't as Floyd will be chasing the rematch........

[Skav]

In all fairness RAZZ, I dont need to. With Sandra claiming Pakow / Mayweather will be a WAR she has taken the mantle.

 

Erm!!!! When was the last / first time Mayweather was ever in a war?

 

It's these Pac nuthuggers you see my good sir, they think every fight Manny is involved in is going to be a war. They don't realise all of his fights since JMM have been against come forward punch bags.

 

And what has Mayweather done since 2005?

 

Where in my post do i mention Mayweather, i'm not talking about Floyd, i'm talking about Manny. You don't have to bash Floyd every time Manny is mentioned, i wasn't crediting or discrediting anything Floyd's done.

 

Cagey (a bit like your hero) response. Fair enough, you refuse to answer.

 

Refuse to answer? What's the point in the question though, there isn't any point because i never mentioned Floyd to begin with. You could of asked me about anyone in response to what i said, why not what has Cotto done since 2005 or what has Shane Mosley done since 2005. Just a very random question.

 

"Nuthugger" is a derogatory term for a fan, whether it's been around for a long time or not and it's quite clear you were making fun of either Manny or his fans, so why can't I turn it around and raise questions about Floyd? Last time I looked this thread was about Manny AND Floyd. Don't worry, I won't ask the question again. To suit your personal needs, we'll keep the subject on Manny and I'll counter your original point instead with this: At least he's fought the opponents that the public demanded and wanted to see.

 

I'm not avoiding any questions, i'll happily answer, just wanted to know why you randomly brought it up whilst quoting my post.

 

Well i know for a fact you're going to pick holes in whatever i say but after 2005 he beat Oscar which regardless of what people say, was a fantastic win. He went up to Oscar's weight and dethroned him.

 

He beat Hatton who was undefeated. Yeah you could say Hatton was made for Floyd, it's easy to say now that you never gave Hatton a chance against Floyd but the fact is a lot of people picked Ricky to win and like it or not, he was undefeated and a dangerous opponent.

 

Shane Mosley was coming off a devasting victory over Margarito who everybody is adamant Floyd ducked. Everybody then accused Floyd of ducking Shane, so what did he do? Fought him, schooled him and then all the haters came back out saying yeah but Shane's past it, Shane's old.

 

He absolutely schooled Marquez who's the best boxer in the game today except Floyd, and was P4P number 3. Nobody has ever made Marquez look that poor and that ordinary. Yes you could argue Floyd didn't stick to the weight rules and Marquez was out of his own weight class, but even if they weighed in exactly the same on fight night, Floyd would have still boxed his socks off.

 

Let's face it Lee, you're never going to give Floyd his credit or his dues. You're more than likely going to discredit everything i've just said because of your dislike for him.

 

Oh and at the time, i forget if it was Baldomir or Judah, either way one of them was the lineal champ when Floyd fought them. I'm sure it was Baldomir. That's a decent feat in itself. Fair enough Baldomir's never exactly been a great champion, but he was still the number 2 in the division at the time.

 

Actually, I'm not going to bother dissecting what you said because it's pointless.

 

I'll just say that if you compare his LWW and WW reigns with his LW one then you may find that it's pretty poor in comparison.

 

You can dissect whatever you want, i know holes are there to be picked at, but it's the same with Manny's record for the past 6-7 fights, people just get sucked in to the hype with him.

 

I never said this run was as impressive as his lightweight one, because it obviously and quite clearly isn't, but to discredit him saying he's done nothing since 2005 is plain absurd. Just my opinion though.

 

Just remember if you dissect what i put forward, you'll be discrediting everyone of Manny's past opponents anyway, with the exception of Baldomir.

 

I didn't say that he hasn't done anything at all, I'm saying his reign since 2005 is much to be desired. And how would I be discrediting Manny's past opponents if I pick on Floyd? Are you going to quote him and say that Manny's been fighting Floyd's leftovers?[/quote:7f88156448]

 

What i'm saying, is that if you discredit wins against the likes of Hatton, Oscar, Shane and Marquez, then you're effectively discrediting Manny's wins against those very same names. You could argue that Manny was at the same weight as Marquez but then you could also argue that he was lucky to get a win and a draw out of both meetings with him.[/quote:7f88156448]

 

I never gave credit to Manny for his win over Mosley and I won't when he beats Marquez, either. He fought Hatton at his prime weight. But 2005 is a long way past. Why only bring up his WW career? There is Morales and Barrera who are leagues above the likes of a Judah or Baldomir. And even though it was controversial, Manny got the win over Marquez at the proper weight.

 

Anyway, we'll agree to disagree. Since we idolise each fighter we are not going to agree. But calling Manny's fans pactards or the like is just opening yourself up for some fire.