fightfan Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 “A great trainer without a great fighter is nothing,” noted Roach to Bleacher Report, who has worked with 27 world champions to date. “Pacquiao made me,” he added, speaking of the current WBO welterweight champion who, under the guidance of Roach, has won major honours including four defences of the IBF version of the super bantamweight championship, The Ring magazine’s featherweight belt, the WBC and The Ring magazine’s super featherweight title, the WBC lightweight strap, The Ring magazine’s super lightweight championship, the WBO welterweight title and the WBC super welterweight belt. Pacquiao (53-3-2, 38ko), who has an upcoming fight against Juan Manuel Marquez in November, currently divides his time between fighting, being a musician and actor, as well as working as congressman for the Sarangani province in his native Philippines. It is his political obligations, though, together with his generosity that have contributed to a decline in the Filipino’s financial situation. Roach (pictured above) tellingly explained to Brin-Jonathan Butler: “He’s broke because of that and all the people he flies around to his fights. He goes through money like you wouldn’t believe. He can’t say no. Of course he’ll have to keep fighting. He does now. He won’t be able to stop – it’s his life.” One of Pacquiao’s stablemates at Roach’s Wildcard Boxing Gym in Hollywood, California, is Amir Khan – the WBA/IBF unified super lightweight world champion and number nine pound-for-pound fighter according to On The Beak‘s rankings. Khan (26-1-0, 18ko) was widely – and prematurely – written off following a 54 second knockout loss to Colombian banger Breidis Prescott but has since became a champion of the world in his division, making five defences of the WBA belt, adding the IBF trinket to his honours roll and is to fight once, maybe twice more in the 140lb weight class before moving up to welterweight, 147lbs, in order to challenge the likes of Floyd Mayweather Jr. “He has the talent and the determination to rise as far as he wants,” said Roach of Khan. “After a weakness was exposed in his loss, he worked harder than ever. We’ve made adjustments. You’re seeing the results of those adjustments. Just watch where we can go…” Roach has also worked with Guillermo Rigondeaux, a relative novice in the professional ranks having fought for pay just eight times and is already an interim world champion. Cuban sensation Rigondeaux (pictured below) fought over 300 times as an amateur, scooped a clutch of gold medals – including two at the Olympics in 2000 and 2004 and is regarded as one of the best amateur champions throughout history. Picture: Stacey Verbeek “Guillermo is the most talented fighter I’ve ever worked with,” said Roach, lavishing more praise on the undefeated 30-year-old southpaw. “More talent than anyone. “However, there are issues with him given his situation leaving behind his country, his family, the Miami people trying to get a hold of him – there’s a minefield out there for him. Do I think he can make it? Sure. He could fight for two titles on the same night and I’m pretty sure win with no problem. But he has it much harder than most on the personal side.” Changing the subject matter from one of the brightest prospects to a boxing badass, Mike Tyson, Roach said that he would welcome the introduction of the former undisputed heavyweight champion to any broadcasting platform as he would be an outstanding shot-caller on fight nights. “Mike Tyson is not one of [but] the greatest boxing historian who ever lived,” said Roach, who spends most of his time in his Wildcard Boxing Gym in Hollywood, California. “Back to the bare knuckle days, Tyson knows more about this sport than anyone on the planet but I don’t think he feels boxing has treated him too good. I think Mike Tyson could be the greatest boxing announcer we’ve ever had. We’ll have to see if he can come back to boxing. “He’s moody – we all are. It’s sad what happened to him with his career but if anyone can turn it around, it’s him.” http://onthebeak.com/2011/08/20/freddie-roach-manny-pacquiao-made-me-but-hes-broke-and-will-have-to-keep-fighting-its-his-life-503/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Galveston Giant Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 Roach made Pacquiao too, interesting to see him say that Pacquiao will have to fight on now due to blowing his money, wasn't so long ago he looked liked he was going to retire and focus on politics. Good news for the fans. Guillermo Rigondeaux is a huge talent and thats backed up be Roach saying he's the most talented he's ever worked with, it's a pity the circumstances which surround him and his late arrival to the pro game, but i'm hoping there's a lot more still to come from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBride Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 Re: Freddie Roach – Manny Pacquiao made me . He could fight for two titles on the same night and I’m pretty sure win with no problem. ] Still copying Leonard I see. Are these two muppets even capable of original thought? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamasadlittleboy Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 I think he was talking about Rigondeaux there with the 2 titles on one night comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshDevilRob Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 Yeah that comment is regarding Rigondeaux. Don't see any controversy in that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irondave85 Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 I saw Rigo train and fight live in person. Take it from me, the man is simply phenomenal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavpowell Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 It's just his attitude that concerned me early on - he seemed very negative and, well, amateurish. Haven't seen him for a coupl,e of fights so hopefully he's having the rough edges knocked off him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamasadlittleboy Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 It's just his attitude that concerned me early on - he seemed very negative and, well, amateurish. Haven't seen him for a coupl,e of fights so hopefully he's having the rough edges knocked off him He certainly looked aggressive against Willy Casey...though the gulf in class was ridiculous... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBride Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 It matters not who he talks about. Leonard did it in front of a mass audience v Lalonde, any other catchweights for more than one weight title in the same fight, are not an original concept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skav Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 It matters not who he talks about. Leonard did it in front of a mass audience v Lalonde, any other catchweights for more than one weight title in the same fight, are not an original concept. Stop reading into things and jumping to conclusions, Roach didn't mention anything about weights. For all your supposed "educated guessing" he could have meant Rigondeaux fighting somebody who holds two world titles in the same weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamasadlittleboy Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 Or fighting twice in the same night like country man Mike Perez did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavpowell Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 It matters not who he talks about. Leonard did it in front of a mass audience v Lalonde, any other catchweights for more than one weight title in the same fight, are not an original concept. Stop reading into things and jumping to conclusions, Roach didn't mention anything about weights. For all your supposed "educated guessing" he could have meant Rigondeaux fighting somebody who holds two world titles in the same weight. Yep, except he obviously meant two opponents because otherwise that's just one fight, and Roach was emphasising that Rigo is so good he couyld have two fights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBride Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 It matters not who he talks about. Leonard did it in front of a mass audience v Lalonde, any other catchweights for more than one weight title in the same fight, are not an original concept. Stop reading into things and jumping to conclusions, Roach didn't mention anything about weights. For all your supposed "educated guessing" he could have meant Rigondeaux fighting somebody who holds two world titles in the same weight. Have you learned to tell the difference between 2 and 3 yet? A little bit of free advice, dont even attempt 40, and 41, they will only give you a headache. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skav Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 It matters not who he talks about. Leonard did it in front of a mass audience v Lalonde, any other catchweights for more than one weight title in the same fight, are not an original concept. Stop reading into things and jumping to conclusions, Roach didn't mention anything about weights. For all your supposed "educated guessing" he could have meant Rigondeaux fighting somebody who holds two world titles in the same weight. Have you learned to tell the difference between 2 and 3 yet? A little bit of free advice, dont even attempt 40, and 41, they will only give you a headache. Have you learnt to read yet? I'm surprised you reached your 60's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBride Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 It matters not who he talks about. Leonard did it in front of a mass audience v Lalonde, any other catchweights for more than one weight title in the same fight, are not an original concept. Stop reading into things and jumping to conclusions, Roach didn't mention anything about weights. For all your supposed "educated guessing" he could have meant Rigondeaux fighting somebody who holds two world titles in the same weight. Have you learned to tell the difference between 2 and 3 yet? A little bit of free advice, dont even attempt 40, and 41, they will only give you a headache. Have you learnt to read yet? I'm surprised you reached your 60's. I can read well enough to see when an idiot keeps writing Mayweather knocked Marquez down in the 3rd when in fact is was the 2nd, and indeed laugh at him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemurphy Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 I can read well enough to see when an idiot keeps writing Mayweather knocked Marquez down in the 3rd when in fact is was the 2nd, and indeed laugh at him. I recall a time when a mistake like that would lead to being tarred and feathered and run out of town ;) Sorry, just trying to add some levity here, is this really worth the trouble bickering with each other? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBride Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Its only a bit of banter Dave. It is always enjoyable to ridicule smugness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londoner Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 I think Pacquiao certainly helped to make Roach a very famous trainer but i think Roach made Pacquiao much more. Roach took a guy who had a lot of potential and turned him into the best boxer in the World. Without Roach i don't think Pacquiao becomes an elite p4p fighter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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