LondonRingRules Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 --- Both currently ranked mid 120s on boxrec, but both undefeated with Kenzie coming off a spectacular KO of Hasim Rahman Jr. Kenzie in a Triller Sons of Legends Promo held and Kansas City against a journeyman, and Sonny, 10-0, 8 KO, in an Arum Promo in Philly against another nondescript journeyman, so if either want to make any splash in the boxing world that might propel them to a world title, now is the time for these two to man up to their scratch line. Alas, myself with empty pockets ain't a promoter nor have any wish to be, but if I were, these are the kinds of matchups I'd be pushing, the obvious type of fights that fans want to see that boxing almost never delivers these days. Am I being too critical? Who with me? Who a'gin me? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ledhed1 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 As far as pushing for these "kinds of matchups" we're talking grass-roots here and certainly the industry needs grass-roots levels to sustain itself. I tend to let the promoters do what that do - they don't ruin my enjoyment of the competition (try as they may) - so to the degree the younger Morrison is marketable based on name alone, whatever. These guys are light years - as in the unreachable star - from sniffing even contender status but you gotta start somewhere. As for the match I'll side with the pedigree and I'm not talking bloodlines. I trust TopRank has a modicum of talent recognition and that's where Conto comes from. He's got the edge in polished skills even at an early stage of development. Clever on his team's part as a win serves to fool enough people into thinking he beat a better fighter than in reality. So long as he avoids a fatal mistake - Morrison will be swinging for the fences - Conto's slow climb continues. Again he's still a baby; his ceiling is nothing but a guess at this point but plenty of room for upward movement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cableaddict Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 I disagree, after thinking about it for a while, and here's why: 1: For the fans to really enjoy this sport, it's best for some of the most promising prospects to rise through the ranks undefeated, then meet each other later in the game. That gives fans multiple guys to follow & root for, and when they finally DO meet, it becomes much more exciting. So if Trey were to fight Sonny this year, one of my favorite prospects would lose, and another small bit of enjoyment I was having (despite the cesspool that boxing has become) will have been chipped away. 2: Sometimes the best fighters have "holes in their game" early in their pro careers. By matching them too aggressively, early on, they may sustain enough losses to keep them from getting the better fights they'll need in mid-career. And thus, the fans may never get to see them rise to the top, which also hurts the sport overall. Sure, matching them tough early on will speed their development, and even moreso if they lose a few times, but it's not worth the trade-off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonRingRules Posted October 22, 2022 Author Share Posted October 22, 2022 --- Arum been specializing in taking charismatic marginal talents to prop up his undercards by turning them into undefeated fringe contenders. Win/Win for the fighter and Arum, but eventually the stiff will have to be sacrificed as an offering to a legit contender. I see Sonny in that same vein, a popular collegiate playoff pitcher making a go at boxing. To a lesser degree, I see Kenzie in the same mode with a lesser promoter hoping to land Son of Tommy a title shot. Currently boxing must have at least a half dozen fringe contenders circling the drain, some of whom Cable raves over who are avoiding each other. Eventually after exhausting every avenue of dangerous opponents, they fight each other like Hrg and Zhang did and we got a great fight out of it with Zhang in particular getting a huge boost as the loser with a Ring rating. I happen to think Sonny vs Kenzie would do the biz as the main card under an Arum promotion and I get that the fighters would be willing. But my KO buds here say nay as do their managers, so what can I say but I'm very disappointed boxing continues to stagnate under the growing pile of their own self created messes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cableaddict Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 It's only a question of how SOON top prospects should face each other. Imagine if Tyson Fury, Wilder, Fat Andy, and Usyk all fought each other, multiple times, when they only had about 10 fights in the bag. Five years later, only one of them would have made it to the top ten, and the only opponents they'd have available would be Derek Chisora and Lucas Brown. Dana White thinks this is a very good idea. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonRingRules Posted October 23, 2022 Author Share Posted October 23, 2022 20 hours ago, Cableaddict said: It's only a question of how SOON top prospects should face each other. Imagine if Tyson Fury, Wilder, Fat Andy, and Usyk all fought each other, multiple times, when they only had about 10 fights in the bag. Five years later, only one of them would have made it to the top ten, and the only opponents they'd have available would be Derek Chisora and Lucas Brown. Dana White thinks this is a very good idea. - - Nobody asks Contenders to face each other all at once because of the promotional impracticality, but they could all step up their opposition. In the meantime, SPOILER ALERT!!!!! https://fightnews.com/sons-of-legends-results-from-kansas-city/139280 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cableaddict Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 1 hour ago, LondonRingRules said: - - Nobody asks Contenders to face each other all at once because of the promotional impracticality, but they could all step up their opposition. In the meantime, SPOILER ALERT!!!!! https://fightnews.com/sons-of-legends-results-from-kansas-city/139280 Feh. Just "kenzie. He's the no-talent son that Freddy refused to train. I wouldn't even match him against Chisora or Lucas Brown. lol ........ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonRingRules Posted October 24, 2022 Author Share Posted October 24, 2022 22 hours ago, Cableaddict said: Feh. Just "kenzie. He's the no-talent son that Freddy refused to train. I wouldn't even match him against Chisora or Lucas Brown. lol ........ --- Sonny missing out on a big payday with a big splash. There is of course the other Tommy's son that Freddie does train. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ledhed1 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 The full show is available in the Online Videos thread. The main event commences about 4h45m into the video. But surely you'll want to watch all the 'Sons of Legends!' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamarclark09 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 I support Kenzie Morrison. Because Kenzie is the son of Tommy and Tommy is a boxing legend. I hope Kenzie will win this fight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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