WelshDevilRob Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 Dmitrii Bivol (20-0, 11 KOs) vs Gilberto Ramirez (44-0, 30 Kos). Who wins? Date: 5th November 2022 Venue: Etihad Arena, Abu Dhabi Titles: WBA 'Super' World Light Heavy Mexican Ramirez, 31, is a former WBO Super Middleweight champion. Been a professional since 2009. At Light Heavyweight he's beaten Alfonso Lopez, Sullivan Barrera, Yunieski Gonzalez and Dominic Boesel. Boxrec rates him No.3 in the division. Kyrgyzstan's Bivol, 31, became super by beating Canelo. Been a professional since 2014. He held the WBA belt since 2017, and the interim version before that. Has beaten the likes of Jean Pascal, Joe Smith Jr and Sullivan Barrera. Boxrec rates him No.1 in the 175lbs division. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cableaddict Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 Bivol, all night long. Surdo was never more than really tough. Sort of the "Derek Chisora" of 168. And very carefully matched, plus lots of "persuasion" money along the way. Bivol is at LEAST one level above. Probably three levels. And I doubt he can be paid off, so this will likely be a real fight. Ramirez gonna' get humiliated. Of course, if it goes to the cards ........ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ledhed1 Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 Always thought Ramirez was overrated which comes with the territory as TopRank fighter, which he was in his supermiddleweight days. He's tough as nails but Bivol's got too much skill for him. Does Bivol come in on an emotional downer after taking down the P4P number one? That may be Ramirez's only edge to take advantage of. But I don't see Ramirez as an opponent Bivol looks past. Bivol comes in ready and takes care of business. As an aside let's not get all caught up in the titles. Beterbiev is the man at 175 and that title passes only by beating the man in the ring. Who wouldn't want to see Beterbiev vs. the Bivol/Ramirez winner? Hope we see it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonRingRules Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 --- Beter got to get by a puncher in Yarde and do it in England first. Zurdo no longer having to starve at 168 is well experienced now such that Arum could potentially make some good $$$ off him. Tall, lanky, southpaw vs a light puncher in Bivol, none of these bouts are guaranteed. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoztheMadman Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 I think Bivol has proven against Alvarez that he's just too good for everyone at 175 right now-probably even Beterbiev. The kid can box, oh hell yes! He will just run and box and outbox Zurdo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshDevilRob Posted October 17, 2022 Author Share Posted October 17, 2022 On 10/13/2022 at 8:07 AM, LondonRingRules said: --- Beter got to get by a puncher in Yarde and do it in England first. Zurdo no longer having to starve at 168 is well experienced now such that Arum could potentially make some good $$$ off him. Tall, lanky, southpaw vs a light puncher in Bivol, none of these bouts are guaranteed. Great points. Certainly a competitive time, at the top, in the division. Just in the UK, LH is, probably, our strongest division. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cableaddict Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 On 10/13/2022 at 3:07 AM, LondonRingRules said: Zurdo no longer having to starve at 168 is well experienced now such that Arum could potentially make some good $$$ off him. Tall, lanky, southpaw vs a light puncher in Bivol, none of these bouts are guaranteed. It doesn't happen all that often, but I must admit that you may have a good point here. Still, even if Zurdo is stronger and healthier at 175, he's still a meatball. Bivol is vastly more skilled. A classic "matador vs bull" scenario. (And if it end up going to the cards, expect heaps and HEAPS of bull.) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamarclark09 Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 I think this time Ramiraz will win. Ramirez will pose an intriguingly different challenge to the one Bivol faced against his illustrious countryman. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonRingRules Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 1 hour ago, lamarclark09 said: I think this time Ramiraz will win. Ramirez will pose an intriguingly different challenge to the one Bivol faced against his illustrious countryman. --- Welcome to KO Boxing Forum, and while not as definitive as you, yes, those were the points I brought up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamarclark09 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 I fully support Dmitry Bivol who stunned the boxing world with his masterful decision victory over pound-for-pound superstar Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez in May. Although Gilberto 'Zurdo' Ramirez is also the best fighter all over the world and also in top ranking, Bivol has skills to win this. This match is gonna be amazing. Can't wait. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoztheMadman Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 I just don't see Ramirez being able to get past Bivol's defense, movement and counter punching. That boy can box. Ramirez being bigger means nothing. And he doesn't hit as hard as Beterbiev either. A clear UD for Bivol. THAT O GONNA GO! 👋 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
repsac Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 i lean towards Bivol by decision. Could see Ramirez giving some issues early on with his size, but Bivol should be able to adjust and win a 116-112 decision. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonRingRules Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 - - It may not just be Zurdo's size. He moving up seems to have packed on significant weight training muscle. What that means as to the final outcome, I know not, but it's there and it's the looming unknown in this fight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cableaddict Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 Nuts, I just realized this fight was in Dubai, so already done. I'm sure Selij or the others will come through. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonRingRules Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 *****SPOLILERS***** / / / / / / / / / --- Bivol wins wide decision in a decent, non dramatic fight where neither fighter hurt or busted up. I scored 5-4-3 for Zurdo, but giving my even rounds to prefight favorite Bivol, that's not so far off from the official score. Interesting in no animosity prefight, and so they appreciatively touched gloves at the end of every round just happy to have a payday for a decent fight I suppose. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cableaddict Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 Bivol's ability to control the distance was just lovely to watch. Another master class. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshDevilRob Posted November 6, 2022 Author Share Posted November 6, 2022 That was a very comfortable win for Bivol. Ramirez looked huge but tame. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_ Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 Yeah it was slick 17 hours ago, Cableaddict said: Bivol's ability to control the distance was just lovely to watch. Another master class. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoztheMadman Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 PWNED! 😆 Zurdo looked TERRIBLE! Bivol favorite to beat Beterbiev IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonRingRules Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 - - WBC removing Russian fighters from their rankings? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoztheMadman Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 17 hours ago, LondonRingRules said: - - WBC removing Russian fighters from their rankings? I hate it when politics meddle in sports...that's just BS. Boxrec no longer keeps track of fights in Russia either. It's just so ridiculous! 🙄 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonRingRules Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 5 hours ago, BoztheMadman said: I hate it when politics meddle in sports...that's just BS. Boxrec no longer keeps track of fights in Russia either. It's just so ridiculous! 🙄 --- I know things ain't so good superstructure wise in Russia under current circumstances, so maybe the Boxrec editors their either don't have the means to report, or perhaps nothing to report? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoztheMadman Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 1 hour ago, LondonRingRules said: --- I know things ain't so good superstructure wise in Russia under current circumstances, so maybe the Boxrec editors their either don't have the means to report, or perhaps nothing to report? Maybe but they should try harder...I guess. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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