WelshDevilRob Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 The sport can make you scratch your head and wonder why. It can give a lot of pleasure and provide excitement. It's surely the most frustrating sport to follow. What does your head in with our sport? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cableaddict Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 Fixed it fer ya' 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ledhed1 Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 Here's what sets boxing apart from every other sport. There's no authority advising the franchises - promoters - on scheduling. This weekend we have Wilder-Helenius and Haney-Kambosos. Not to mention the rescheduled "ladies night" at the O2. Many weekends are totally empty of A-list events. That's because each promoter cedes scheduling decisions to its broadcast partner. If you're not on a Saturday night, you're not happening. Promoters only care about their own shop and would just as soon all their competitors go away. They eat each other alive by scheduling against each other. They'd help the industry by scheduling on Fridays from time to time - even Thursdays - the night before holidays; during the daytime on weekends, etc. Those empty weekends mean boxing is out of sight, out of mind. Is it any wonder boxing has virtually disappeared from the mainstream sports radar over the last 40 years? Any university could offer a course on how not to run a business; a full semester could easily be filled studying a boxing promoter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cableaddict Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 Also, there's no excuse for how few good fights we get per year. As I've posted before: (The math may be slightly off, but it's close enough to make my point) With three major sanctioning bodies, and about 13 important weight divisions, and assuming the true champions fight just twice a year: That's 78 world championship bouts per year. Now figure in two other top-5 guys in each division, of each sanctioning body, again fighting only 2X a year. Subtract 25% since many of these guys are in multiple divisions and ranked by several organizatons. Then subtract another 25% as they will sometimes (believe it or not) actually fight each other, (unless they are signed to Al Haymon) and that's another 37 top-tier bouts per year, for a total of: 115 top-tier fights per year / 1.7 top-tier fights EVERY SINGLE WEEK. - Plus lots of fights between the rest of the top-ten guys, which should at LEAST double that number. And yet ........ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonRingRules Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 --- Out of your 78 title bouts, because of multiple viewing platforms requiring a King's ransom to view, a good year would see me viewing 12 of those fights, and not always in the moment of the fight. Of course my viewing tolerance is limited, so I pick and choose as I've already given most of 2 glory years during the Golden Age of Youtube when I watched what seemed to be every great boxing match ever filmed. In between catching some bites with my beer, I was living the life of a fighter with daily workouts just in case l'l floydy or Popkins needed a sparring partner or opponent. Yeah, a pipedream, but I can say I lived it in the best fighting shape possible. Anyway, this guy, Armando Garcia, a Mexican referee has written an exhaustive book of guidelines to refereeing that "attempts" to 'splain myriad Byzantine complexities of just the referee duties. Given that the ref is the most important man in the ring at critical times all through a bout, it helps a fan to understand better how a fight progresses. The Professional Boxing Referee Manual - 2022-2023 - AG.pdf(Review) - Adobe cloud storage 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cableaddict Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 11 hours ago, LondonRingRules said: --- Out of your 78 title bouts, because of multiple viewing platforms requiring a King's ransom to view, a good year would see me viewing 12 of those fights, and not always in the moment of the fight. Well yeah, ridiculous pricing is yet another problem, with no resolution in sight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cableaddict Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 11 hours ago, LondonRingRules said: Anyway, this guy, Armando Garcia, a Mexican referee has written an exhaustive book of guidelines to refereeing that "attempts" to 'splain myriad Byzantine complexities of just the referee duties. Given that the ref is the most important man in the ring at critical times all through a bout, it helps a fan to understand better how a fight progresses. The Professional Boxing Referee Manual - 2022-2023 - AG.pdf(Review) - Adobe cloud storage Nice find ! Sadly, this is not some official rules list adopted by any of the sanctioning bodies. (AFAIK) They all seem to keep the rules as murky as possible, so as to make it easier to throw fights. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshDevilRob Posted October 13, 2022 Author Share Posted October 13, 2022 I would add Adam Smith commentating on fights, also boxing pals commenting on fights. Macklin is a decent commentator but he was commenting on fights that involved MTK boxers. Commentating needs to be neutral. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoztheMadman Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 Eddie Hearn. That guy now just doesn't care about his boxers, all he cares about is putting together a big card that will make him a lot of money. And, whenever things aren't going smoothly in UK, he goes to Saudi Arabia, where he knows they will say yes to him immediately. Also, lately, Tyson Fury has become just a major pain in the ass. He has turned into a clown, a guy who cares nothing about his fans or his legacy but is just eager to stay in the headlines and take big paydays crushing has-beens who have never been that good in the first place. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonRingRules Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 --- Well Wilder looked shot, but managed to graze Helenius unconscious at the end of the first round. And we didn't have a thread! Sez he sparred 700 rds and looked emaciated at the weighin. What with the dent Fury put in his noggin with eggweights, all them rounds just accelerating his obvious CTE. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cableaddict Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 3 hours ago, LondonRingRules said: --- Well Wilder looked shot, but managed to graze Helenius unconscious at the end of the first round. And we didn't have a thread! Although I'd love to once again laugh a your rabbid hatred of Wilder, I must admit that I was also puzzled / skeptical of that left hook. - Until I realized that Wilder took Rob out with a lightning-fast RIGHT. It's very hard to see, but undeniable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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