fightfan Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 Can be unknown or popular fighters Few that spring to my mind John O'Donnell John McDermott Sergio Mora Paul Appleby Ricky Hatton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAZZ-MCFC Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 Re: Fighters who have so much potential then disappoint you Can be unknown or popular fighters Few that spring to my mind John O'Donnell John McDermott Sergio Mora Paul Appleby Ricky Hatton Ricky Hatton went as far as his potential could take him in my opinion. He was never in any life going to beat Floyd or Manny but he reached world level and beat all the others which is as good as his potential would allow. Mike Tyson could easily be added to the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_budweiser Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 Hatton disapointed myself in the Mayweather fight, Usa TV judges had him winning early on. His workrate was intelligent and at a good pace, Mayweather had no answer to it then all of a sudden Hattons head went and he got thrustrated resulting in him making mistakes, which Mayweather punished (and im not going to mention the ref ). With all of Hattons experience he should of stuck to his game plan instead of his head taking over to what was working early on. I thought of Hatton highly so i agree that he did disapoint myself when he lost, Potentially if he kept his cool who knows what would of happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irondave85 Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 A few others that come to mind: Andrew Golota - I predicted he would smash Lewis to bits and dominate the division for years. Didn't pan out that way, lol. Junior Jones - Surprised everyone by twice beating Barrera, but then ran into a rejuvenated Kennedy McKinney and was never quite the same afterwards. Joan Guzman - Proof that natural talent alone isn't enough to get by in the pro game. Zab Judah - See above. Good career by anyone's standard, but judged on his ability, it could have been so much better. David Reid - Depending on who you ask, either Tito or his droopy eyelid brought down the curtain on a promising career all too early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_budweiser Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 Who was the fighter who was sky tvs million dollar fighter to end up with a poor career? was it Butlin ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonrod Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 Not sure about Butlin? Could be. I remember way back when Boxing was on ITV they were seriously backing Blackpool's (Cruiserweight / Heavyweight) Matthew Ellis for big things - giving him big ring walks where he entered wearing a tuxedo...... sadly he's now nothing more than a journey man. Also, surely Audley Harrison must fall into this group? A big & tall heavyweight, always looks in fantastic shape, possesses power and reasonable skills, won an Olympic Gold medal then turned professional......... we then quickly realised that he was delusional, gutless, and quite frankly did not like fighting (a huge problem if your chosen career is a boxer!!!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAZZ-MCFC Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 Not sure about Butlin? Could be. I remember way back when Boxing was on ITV they were seriously backing Blackpool's (Cruiserweight / Heavyweight) Matthew Ellis for big things - giving him big ring walks where he entered wearing a tuxedo...... sadly he's now nothing more than a journey man. Also, surely Audley Harrison must fall into this group? A big & tall heavyweight, always looks in fantastic shape, possesses power and reasonable skills, won an Olympic Gold medal then turned professional......... we then quickly realised that he was delusional, gutless, and quite frankly did not like fighting (a huge problem if your chosen career is a boxer!!!). Jesus Matt Ellis, i remember Enzo Mac spanked him a couple of years back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapevine241 Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 i would have said victor ortiz before the berto fight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skav Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 Hatton disapointed myself in the Mayweather fight, Usa TV judges had him winning early on. His workrate was intelligent and at a good pace, Mayweather had no answer to it then all of a sudden Hattons head went and he got thrustrated resulting in him making mistakes, which Mayweather punished (and im not going to mention the ref ). With all of Hattons experience he should of stuck to his game plan instead of his head taking over to what was working early on. I thought of Hatton highly so i agree that he did disapoint myself when he lost, Potentially if he kept his cool who knows what would of happened. I know that's not a popular point of view but that's one I agree with! I had Hatton drawing with Floyd up until the sixth when he lost his cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonrod Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 I had Hatton drawing with Floyd up until the sixth when he lost his cool. I remember I had it close up until that point too. I think Hatton losing his cool (aswell as everyone in the pub I was in) was completely down to Mr Joe Cortez and not his opponent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamasadlittleboy Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 Yuri Romanov-Schooled Thaxton...then disappeared =/ (re-appeared recently and is only in his 20's so we will see) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBride Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 Nothing wrong with a bit of revisionism chaps. However it is worth remembering Hatton ( who I thought would beat Mayweather at the time ) was 6, 8, and 8 points down at the time of stoppage in the 10th. Even allowing for Cortez making a prick of himself for the first 4 rounds, all 3 judges cant have got it wrong. I dont know if it is the guy you are on about but I remember Warren giving a hundred grand signing on fee in his early days to a good looking 18 year old travelling kid from Yateley called Johnny Collins, and he didn't amount to much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapevine241 Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 i dont think i gave hatton a round against mayweather... then again its been a few years since ive watched it. hatton was doing a lot but none of it was effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oxo1947 Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 all 3 judges cant have got it wrong. =McBride No--That could never happen in the sport of boxing................. mlol/ And so far not a mention of Mr Haye........ "John Lennon was fond of saying that while he was born in Liverpool, it was in Hamburg that he became a man. For David Haye, the same German city was where he was made to look like a boy. In and out of the ring. Similar to Haye's meeting with Audley Harrison (I hesitate to call it a fight), millions will feel so let down." ------ BEN DIRS' BLOG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_budweiser Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 Not sure about Butlin? Could be. I remember way back when Boxing was on ITV they were seriously backing Blackpool's (Cruiserweight / Heavyweight) Matthew Ellis for big things - giving him big ring walks where he entered wearing a tuxedo...... sadly he's now nothing more than a journey man. . yeah it was ellis the blackpool fighter mlol/ mlol/ mlol/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_budweiser Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 i dont think i gave hatton a round against mayweather... then again its been a few years since ive watched it. hatton was doing a lot but none of it was effective. Sure the USA TV Guys had had 2 or 3 round up early on, dont quote me on it. It's been ages since i watched it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBride Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 all 3 judges cant have got it wrong. =McBride No--That could never happen in the sport of boxing................. mlol/ I think you might be confusing CROOKED with WRONG. mlol/ Personally I dont think the judges in that fight were crooked, and I know they weren't wrong. Hatton was just being busy, but getting through with little or nothing, whilst Mayweather just tied him up, or picked him off with ease. This is just an observation per your reference to David Haye. If he was seriously rated as a Heavy, it only shows the dire state of the division, but I dont think he could be overrated as a Cruiser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donlevy Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 I think Michael Nunn could have done so much more.He was a wonderfully gifted athlete with great speed and reflexes and looked a really great fighter when he beat Frank Tate for the title.But he got lazy,hooked onto drugs and just regressed as a fighter it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonrod Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Nothing wrong with a bit of revisionism chaps. However it is worth remembering Hatton ( who I thought would beat Mayweather at the time ) was 6, 8, and 8 points down at the time of stoppage in the 10th. Even allowing for Cortez making a p**** of himself for the first 4 rounds, all 3 judges cant have got it wrong. Despite saying that I had it pretty even at one point in the fight I must point out two major factors - 1. I've only watched the fight once (live). 2. It was very late and I was as pissed as a rat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamasadlittleboy Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 ...how about Prescott? He was the name on everyones lips...and now he's...erm...a bum... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavpowell Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 In what way did Prescott have potential, though? He had the potential to lose his next fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamasadlittleboy Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 In what way did Prescott have potential, though? He had the potential to lose his next fight. Big exciting puncher, much like Miranda...just a shame he's so wild that you can see his shots from the next continent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skav Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 In what way did Prescott have potential, though? He had the potential to lose his next fight. Big exciting puncher, much like Miranda...just a shame he's so wild that you can see his shots from the next continent. I don't understand the need to see a Khan v Prescott rematch. I know it's about setlling your demons and all, but I don't think Khan has any. GBP are clearly aiming him at the mega money fights where as Prescott has lost since defeating Khan and has got nowhere. It doesn't make my mouth water. I also think the improvements in Khan since the Prescott defeat are pretty clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamasadlittleboy Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 In what way did Prescott have potential, though? He had the potential to lose his next fight. Big exciting puncher, much like Miranda...just a shame he's so wild that you can see his shots from the next continent. I don't understand the need to see a Khan v Prescott rematch. I know it's about setlling your demons and all, but I don't think Khan has any. GBP are clearly aiming him at the mega money fights where as Prescott has lost since defeating Khan and has got nowhere. It doesn't make my mouth water. I also think the improvements in Khan since the Prescott defeat are pretty clear. I agree with what you're saying, though there was a time when he looked like he had potential...and he's certainly disappointed since... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavpowell Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 I never saw any potential myself, he always looked like a guy who'd hit the jacpot a la Buster Douglas or Carlos Baldomir, and had no real chance of doing anything significant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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