LondonRingRules Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 (edited) --- Sad to see Spence vs Mikey Garcia is official for March 16, a PPV. He could make twice as much against Manny, but as Max Schmeling noted going into the first Louis fight, "I zee sumtink." http://boxrec.com/en/event/778266/2296511 Edited March 17, 2019 by LondonRingRules Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selij Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Re: Spence vs Mikey Garcia Victor Conte @VictorConte My understanding is that there was a genuine push for @vada_testing for this @mikeygarcia & @errolspencejr fight & it was denied by the A side. Go figure. Boxing deserves leadership that supports clean sport & especially in these more challenging type fight cases. **No vada testing for this fight. Comments guys ? And in other news Lady Lara resigns... In a statement, the World Boxing Council (WBC) confirmed the removal of Lara from their ratings and revealed the move had been issued by Lara’s manager on his fighter’s behalf. “Cuban boxer Erislandy Lara, currently ranked number two at super-welterweight by the World Boxing Council, has asked through his representative, Luis de Cubas Jr, to be removed from the Clean Boxing Program of the WBC. “This is the first time that a boxer has resigned from the Program. And in further news: IBO cruiserweight champion Kevin Lerena says his wife’s medication could be to blame for a failed VADA drug test on October 18 in Johannesburg. :mlol: The WBC announced on Twitter today that Lerena, 21-1 (9), had tested positive, which potentially scuppers plans for the South African to defend his fringe title in March. “BREAKING NEWS: Boxer Kevin Lerena tested positive in a test by @Vada_Testing done in October 18, in Johannesburg, South Africa. The Clean Boxing Program protocol will now begin.” Lerena, however, recovering from a July shoulder operation, flatly denies taking performance-enhancing drugs and believes his wife’s medication, which includes the metabolite identified in the positive test, and which he may have mistakenly ingested, could hold all the answers. Like I said LRR, they all juicing dude. They all juicing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonRingRules Posted November 16, 2018 Author Share Posted November 16, 2018 Re: Spence vs Mikey Garcia --- so VADA busted a dummy that standard testing would've uncovered. Not earth shattering news. So VADA enrolled Mikey forgoes expensive VADA testing not needed for Spence IBF belt. Is getting off vada Vic's vitamins a bad thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonRingRules Posted December 28, 2018 Author Share Posted December 28, 2018 Re: Spence vs Mikey Garcia --- Classic BALCO Vic VADA comments on the drug testing for Spence/Garcia. Reader comments as well...bonus...only in boxing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selij Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Re: Spence vs Mikey Garcia Maybe time for a split, along the bodybuilding lines. 'Pro boxer' and 'Natural boxer.' At least there would be two level playing fields then. As I have said many times, they're all juicing, some get caught some dont. Even though its elementary chemistry to not get caught, some still get caught using 1980/90's gear whose chemical footprints have been documented for 40 years or more.The list of boxing PED 'cheats' is a mile long. This list just scratches the surface and is not exhaustive: Category:Doping cases in boxing - Wikipedia Many also quote RJJ as the prime example of boxing authorities turning a blind eye to PED use, but the facts of the case are both him AND Hall tested positive after the fight. RJJ was 6x over and Hall was 10x over limit - this rarely gets mentioned though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonRingRules Posted December 28, 2018 Author Share Posted December 28, 2018 Re: Spence vs Mikey Garcia --- Rarely got mentioned because the testing authority and commish were clowns with no testing protocols, no rules, and too stupid to for timely analysis and follow up not to mention zip transparancy, the biggest bugaboo in boxing officiating and drug testing today. Both Hall and Roy claimed to be using a legal over the counter supplement, so is that cheating too? Moreover, if, a big if if they were cheating, so is offset cheating really cheating? That was many moons ago, and the testing drug cartels have done little to improve their sordid reputations, and in fact may be seen in a lesser light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonRingRules Posted March 11, 2019 Author Share Posted March 11, 2019 Re: Spence vs Mikey Garcia --- Coming up like a freight train gathering speed at an outlet near you, Mikey and Spence may be setting a Jerry World boxing attendence record. Ring with 3 seperate articles just today, aDavid and Goliath Matchup of two P4Pers. Mikey has closed camp after gaining as yet measured pounds for his Welter debut is tapering off with light shadow boxing and excercise while fine tuning his game plan. Poor Spence stuck in his losing wt groove knowing if he wins he loses respect, and in losing loses respect, so that has to weigh on him. How will the fight play out? I'd suggest Spence jumps on the first opening to bumrush Mikey before he gets a rhythm, and if failing that adopts a classic Klitschko big man fight strategy to box tall at a distance. Who you picking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selij Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Re: Spence vs Mikey Garcia Walkover, non event. Easiest fight of the year to call. Altho, I have long complained to anyone who'll listen that I'm sick to death of promoters, streaming services and coaches telling the fighters who they are fighting (once or twice a year) and hark back to the 'old days' when it was the other way round and the boxers told the managers who they were fighting every couple of months or so... Seems like this is a throwback where Garcia has a perceived beef with Spence Jr and wants a playground fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cableaddict Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 (edited) Re: Spence vs Mikey Garcia Yeah, the expected outcome is pretty obvious. I think Mikey will make it an exciting fight, while it lasts, but he just doesn't have the power at 147 to stop Spence, he doesn't have the defensive footwork to stay safe, and he has a 4" reach disadvantage to boot. His best (only) chance is to attack Spence's body, but Spence is one of the best body punchers in the sport, so how's THAT gonna' work out? I love rooting for the underdog, but 'cmon already. It's going to be like a freight train hitting a land Rover. When the smoke clears, which one do you think will still be on the tracks? Edited March 12, 2019 by Cableaddict Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonRingRules Posted March 12, 2019 Author Share Posted March 12, 2019 Re: Spence vs Mikey Garcia --- Gonna work out like a meat & beat...only in boxing:hug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ton Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Re: Spence vs Mikey Garcia I'm really routing for Garcia though I really like both guys. It's only really meaningful if he manages to pull off the upset. Gotta say his talent is there to be able to try and overcome all the odds. But Spence is a top notch operater too clearly. Logic dictates a good big man beats a good small man. Fair play for Garcia for taking this risk and an attempt at greatness though. I'm still massively intrigued. It's being shown on ITV4 for free for UK fight fans, which is great. I'm definitely going to stay up for this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoztheMadman Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Re: Spence vs Mikey Garcia I got Spence winning this, most likely by a late stoppage. I can see Mikey doing well for 6 rounds or so, then Spence will wear him down. TKO10/11. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonRingRules Posted March 13, 2019 Author Share Posted March 13, 2019 Re: Spence vs Mikey Garcia --- My guess is Mikey will keep as close as able to keep the action inside to negate as much power as he can. He's most open to power shots at distance. If he keeps it close he might end up making Spence go in reverse for some punching space. That might look like Spence is running from the smaller fighter. I'm also thinking how Duran managed to carry a lead on the cards after 12 rds with Hagler that forced Marv in a furious rally the last 3 rds that pulled out the fight for him. Most were giving Duran no chance before the first bell, so sometimes the herding instinct to gather around the obvious can betray people, so yeah, on paper it's all Spence, but Mikey ain't gonna be reading no damn paper, so I won't discount his chances no matter how slim they may look. and 50,000 bouncing off the roof in Jerry's world may well have some say so too!!! This fight could well set the stage for more big stadium fights. Only wish I could afford to be there with the media to see it first hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerald Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Re: Spence vs Mikey Garcia Agree with how a lot of others here (and elsewhere) are viewing this fight. I just can't see past the strength and size of Spence given his own skill set and ability to box, grind to the body, and absorb a good shot. Spence doesn't seem to have an glaring weaknesses and is sufficiently well-rounded that it's hard to see a Garcia game plan that successfully takes away the limited things he does well. I'm enjoying hearing some of the commentary in recent weeks talking up Garcia's chances (Atlas and Kim have both said they can see an upset) because it makes what felt like a straightforward mismatch feel more competitive than it ought to be. I actually expect Garcia to be competitive for the first part of the fight, but I can't see him doing enough over the course of the fight against a world class, well-rounded, strong and robust competitor like Spence. I hope both acquit themselves well and we get a compelling contest. Hopefully the fight raises Spence's profile and any success Garcia has gives other welterweights the desire to take a potentially lucrative and, in their view, winnable fight with Spence. Similarly, I hope that Garcia manages to perform in a way that raises his stock. I believe him when he claims he has a newfound ambition to be great and create a lasting legacy - hopefully even in defeat (which I expect) he can enhance that legacy and remain in the running for some more significant fights down the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ton Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Re: Spence vs Mikey Garcia I actually expect Garcia to be competitive for the first part of the fight, but I can't see him doing enough over the course of the fight against a world class, well-rounded, strong and robust competitor like Spence. I hope both acquit themselves well and we get a compelling contest. Hopefully the fight raises Spence's profile and any success Garcia has gives other welterweights the desire to take a potentially lucrative and, in their view, winnable fight with Spence. Similarly, I hope that Garcia manages to perform in a way that raises his stock. I believe him when he claims he has a newfound ambition to be great and create a lasting legacy - hopefully even in defeat (which I expect) he can enhance that legacy and remain in the running for some more significant fights down the road. Good post my man! :thumb: Agree with every word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonRingRules Posted March 15, 2019 Author Share Posted March 15, 2019 Re: Spence vs Mikey Garcia --- We know Spence will be coming in neat 147, but what's the bulked up Mikey coming in at? I wanna say Mannyweight, say 144, but could be Vic's got him at the limit too, so what about their fight weights? Saturday morning has a 10 Lb gain limit, but the next 12 hours after that, the sky is the limit. Gonna say Spence at 165 and Mikey at 149. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonRingRules Posted March 15, 2019 Author Share Posted March 15, 2019 Re: Spence vs Mikey Garcia --- Mikey 145.5 and Spence 146.25, only 3/4 lb apart and Mikey looks bigger! May recognize a longtime boxing mainstay between them. I'm more swinging to a great fight than I was as by far Mikey the best boxer spence has fought. Alas, not on DAZN... Boxing News: Spence, Garcia make weight >> March 15, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshDevilRob Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Re: Spence vs Mikey Garcia Going with Spence but give Garcia a lot of credit for pushing for this fight. Some moaned that Mikey was avoiding a Loma clash but that could still happen. Garcia has been very well paid, before, so must be getting a lot for this bout. Maybe he, and his team, feel they have Spence's number? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selij Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Re: Spence vs Mikey Garcia Mikey 145.5 and Spence 146.25, only 3/4 lb apart and Mikey looks bigger! You think ? Single click screenshots for full size images: Full weigh in show posted here http://thumbs2.imagebam.com/91/e5/c4/726c2d1164422454.jpg Nice to see Roberto Duran presiding over the staredowns :thumb: http://thumbs2.imagebam.com/90/5e/04/ba83a21164424344.jpg http://thumbs2.imagebam.com/b1/8e/ac/412aca1164425664.jpg http://thumbs2.imagebam.com/12/41/2f/561eab1164425694.jpg http://thumbs2.imagebam.com/c3/f0/79/ca91631164425734.jpg http://thumbs2.imagebam.com/bc/5a/8d/5155441164425794.jpg http://thumbs2.imagebam.com/99/b5/72/4c5fd71164425894.jpg http://thumbs2.imagebam.com/0d/ea/7f/21bc201164425974.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cableaddict Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Re: Spence vs Mikey Garcia I dunno how Spence even makes WW. I think he's missed 147 more times than he's made it. I wouldn't be surprised if he moved up after this fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonRingRules Posted March 16, 2019 Author Share Posted March 16, 2019 Re: Spence vs Mikey Garcia --- Interesting this Ring article in that Michael Montero seems to be in their writing stable, and perhaps just a typo, but clearly states Mikey weighed in 16 lbs more than his highest weight ever that would take him back to 130 Lbs , prob being that his last four fights were at lightweight or jrwelt meaning he's 6 lbs over his highest career weight. Have to wonder how many wagers will be placed on this disinformation. Will he edit the piece? We shall see, but for now it's etched on the internet. Watch: Spence-Garcia weigh-in, Mikey feels the love in Texas - The Ring Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selij Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Re: Spence vs Mikey Garcia Garcia weighed 152 pounds Saturday morning at the IBF’s second-day weigh-in, just three-plus pounds less than Spence, who weighed 155.5 pounds. The IBF’s rule for title fights it sanctions prohibits champions and challengers from adding more than 10 pounds above the weight limit for a given division. Neither Spence nor Garcia were allowed to weigh more than 157 pounds Saturday morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cableaddict Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Re: Spence vs Mikey Garcia So maybe Mikey will be slower than usual. I can't see how just "being heavier" is ever an advantage. Of course, Spence really drains himself to make 147, but he's used to it, so there's no reason to expect him to be any different than in other fights where he actually made weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonRingRules Posted March 17, 2019 Author Share Posted March 17, 2019 Re: Spence vs Mikey Garcia --- In a battle of the jiggly titties, Chris Arreola slapped down the local favorite and make a hard return to the heavyweight scene. Young Benavidez coming off a title strippage and suspension further dismantled TUE Promotions when he blasted Love back to Venus. Should be real close to main event kickoff... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonRingRules Posted March 17, 2019 Author Share Posted March 17, 2019 Re: Spence vs Mikey Garcia --- Big Ouch!!! 120-108 x2 and 120-107 all for Spence, so crisis is officially declared done. Great big man beats great little man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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