LondonRingRules Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 --- The mealy mouth WBC says it's only unofficial to monitor a fighter so he doesn't gain more than 10% of his division limit, but really, the abc/commish suits are making a mess out of what is a simple sport. Just wait until they get sued after a ring disaster because the fighter couldn't fully hydrate. What's next, big punchers having to wear extra padding and fleet footed get clumsy, clodhopper footwear, ect? Boxing News: WBC adds extra fight-day weigh-in >> November 6, 2018 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selij Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Re: WBC Initiates Same Day Weighin Conversely, you could argue its a halfway house BACK to where we should be with same-day weigh ins anyway. Boxers are using diuretics to get down to their 'fighting weight' for the day-before weigh in and then rehydrating ~2-3, sometimes ~4 weight divisions upward to gain an unfair advantage. With this system if they've gained more than 10% the fight's off. Hopefully, this will force boxers to accept their true 'fighting weight'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonRingRules Posted November 6, 2018 Author Share Posted November 6, 2018 Re: WBC Initiates Same Day Weighin --- Any weight cutting sport whether fighters, 'rasslers, jockeys, ect have used diuretics, laxatives, starvation, liquid withholding, saunas, and extra exercise to make their weighin. Day before weighins were designed to get a fighter an extra day to rehydrate. It's obvious that if they deny this basic right to a fighter then they have lost the plot. My answer would be an automatic move to the next division for any missed weight and most of the problem is solved. They still have to do those things, but to a lesser extreme. The WBC proposes dressing room weighins and hour before the fight, just dumb and dumber when the fighter and team are trying to get mentally set. For El Puerco Suliman, cutting weight is beyond his capacity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cableaddict Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 (edited) Re: WBC Initiates Same Day Weighin Conversely, you could argue its a halfway house BACK to where we should be with same-day weigh ins anyway. Boxers are using diuretics to get down to their 'fighting weight' for the day-before weigh in and then rehydrating ~2-3, sometimes ~4 weight divisions upward to gain an unfair advantage. With this system if they've gained more than 10% the fight's off. Hopefully, this will force boxers to accept their true 'fighting weight'. I agree that it's a good thing. Only problem is, what happens when it's a main event, with $millions generated by PPV, the venue paid for, the fans all nestled in their hotel rooms after flying in, and then one guy rehydrates 12%? Are they really going to terminate the fight? If the fight goes on, but without the belt on the line, the outcome could still be permanently unfair (even dangerous) to the other fighter, so that's not a solution, either. ------------- What I've always said is that weigh ins should start about 1 week before the fight. If a fighter can't make weight at that point, and keep it off until the opening bell, then he ins't fighting in the right division. Plus, with a week to go, a fighter that misses weight could be given some kind of compromise second chance, like for instance: he has 2 more days to make weight, at which point the fight goes on, but without the belt on the line, and 50% of that fighter's puse gets confiscated and used to pay for universal PEDs testing. And if fatty can't make weight by fight day, the fight is off, and his management should be on the hook for all losses suffered by the promotor and the venue. Edited November 6, 2018 by Cableaddict Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonRingRules Posted November 6, 2018 Author Share Posted November 6, 2018 Re: WBC Initiates Same Day Weighin --- So, you'd starve the fighters for an extra week to solve the weight gain dilemma? I say throw em in the clink that last week and feed them nothing but a bowl of Dicken's gruel every day to properly put them in frothing fighting trim. Or alternately eliminate the Jr and Sr divisions to return to the original open division. Maybe Ironboy Calderon coulda out pointed Valuev, but how are we to know without granting him his opportunity, ahem, assuming he'd take up the challenge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cableaddict Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Re: WBC Initiates Same Day Weighin --- So, you'd starve the fighters for an extra week to solve the weight gain dilemma? Just the opposite. This would force them to NOT starve themselves, and fight in the correct weight class. ------------- --- .... Or alternately eliminate the Jr and Sr divisions to return to the original open division. Now you're talkin' ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ton Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Re: WBC Initiates Same Day Weighin Conversely, you could argue its a halfway house BACK to where we should be with same-day weigh ins anyway. Boxers are using diuretics to get down to their 'fighting weight' for the day-before weigh in and then rehydrating ~2-3, sometimes ~4 weight divisions upward to gain an unfair advantage. With this system if they've gained more than 10% the fight's off. Hopefully, this will force boxers to accept their true 'fighting weight'. This is precisely spot on. The practice to boil down weight so much as to become a potential medical issue is the real issue and steps like this should be taken to eliminate or at least discourage the practice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ton Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Re: WBC Initiates Same Day Weighin What I've always said is that weigh ins should start about 1 week before the fight. If a fighter can't make weight at that point, and keep it off until the opening bell, then he ins't fighting in the right division. While the sentiment is good, this isn't realistically workable is it? Who's going to foot the bill for the people conducting the weigh in a week earlier, fees to host the weigh in (even if its not a public weigh in they need to pay for a hotel room or something). Fighters might still be in their home towns til only a few days before the fight, so the people doing the official weigh ins would need to fly to wherever that may be. Logically it's not going to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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