LondonRingRules Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 --- Big news, but a bit hush hush since it happened weeks before the Matthysse fight. much more to come with more check ups I presume. Manny Pacquiao was diagnosed with heart ailment week before Lucas Matthysse fight - The Ring Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cableaddict Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Re: Manny Pacquiao diagnosed with heart ailment Years & years of PEDs will do that to an athlete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonRingRules Posted July 21, 2018 Author Share Posted July 21, 2018 Re: Manny Pacquiao diagnosed with heart ailment --- Bit harsh there Cable. This was Manny's biggest promotional attempt thus far and plagued early with money problems only solved in the last weeks before the fight. Added on to his training, senatorial duties, and family duties, and a host of the dozen other endeavors he's involved in going into his 40th year, he obviously reached his mortal limits. Hope you realize that when you offer up such critiques, you might as well insert my name, and I can assure you that I have never taken peds in my lifetime, but I do enjoy my beer, tacos, grilled steaks, and pizza and sorta resent the reasons the usual suspect experts cite for ped use since you are describing me and many others like me that never fit into the status quo of physical mediocrity. Thus, I feel like my science background allayed with my personal experience a better, more informative dialogue. Manny has never tested positive for PEDS that I can ever see, which taken alone is not proof positive that is the case, but it's a strong start. End of the day, only Manny knows definitively, but we do know that his chief critic in this monkey see, monkey do world is legion for actual recorded PED infractions in a case study by Thomas Hauser. TUE 50-0, alas, we wanted to believe but n'er was it meant to be... :smiley-signs097: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavpowell Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Re: Manny Pacquiao diagnosed with heart ailment we do know that his chief critic in this monkey see, monkey do world is legion for actual recorded PED infractions in a case study by Thomas Hauser. No we don't, and your so-called science background ought to make you more objective: Floyd Mayweather has never failed a test, never been accused of failing a test, merely rumoured by vague, undisclosed sources of failing. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, of course, but we know how your standards change depending which fighter is being discussed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonRingRules Posted July 21, 2018 Author Share Posted July 21, 2018 Re: Manny Pacquiao diagnosed with heart ailment --- we do know he is alleged to have failed 3 tests by an insider. Additionally we know that he was what could only be called surreptitiously granted a TUE during the manny bout weeks later that left his testa levels to that of a school grrl, ye aulde Lance trick perfectly legal back in the day and now legal for TUE 50-0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavpowell Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 Re: Manny Pacquiao diagnosed with heart ailment Sure, there's an anonymous mysterious source that Hauser doesn't even have the balls to stand by(Hauser says he doesn't know) and a very dodgy-looking TUE, but that's the difference between suspect and know - we don't know anything because nobody in boxing believes in transparency. I wouldn't know how to tell a PED user from anyone else, nor hav e I ever liked Manny Pacquiao, but I wish people would stop throwing baseless slurs around - nobody with any credibility has ever given me reason to believe Pacquaio is a cheat and until he fails a test he should be presumed innocent. If he kept his heart condition secret from the sanctioning body and the officials, however, he's an arsehole who should be punished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Harris Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Re: Manny Pacquiao diagnosed with heart ailment Don't you just love claims supposedly attributed to "an industry insider" or "a source close to them" or "a source I can't disclose". Pretty much licence to write what you like when you preface it with one of those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sould664 Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Re: Manny Pacquiao diagnosed with heart ailment If true, think we'll see him fight again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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