Ton Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 (edited) Is no one interested in this fight? Does it reflect the promotion of the fight? A lack of personality about Flanagan or his fighting style? Or maybe all of the above? As a local lad to me, I don't mind seeing him do well. But he does seem to have the career of the typical Warren mould. A probable inflated record, padding with nobodies, gone somewhat under the radar and managed to pick up a vacated World title. I've no doubt he is a capable boxer, but probably comes unstuck at World level, like many Warren fighters before him that trod this path. I'm thinking people like Enzo Macarinelli, Nathan Cleverly, Kevin Mitchell, John murray and Gavin Rees (Think they were all Warren fighters anyway). Anyway the oddsmakers put Flanagan as a clear favourite. Does anyone know anything about this Hooker lad? Guessing he isn't quite in the same mould as the Americans that have come over in years gone by and taken world titles away with them, like Bradley, Crawford & Spence Edited June 9, 2018 by LondonRingRules Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_budweiser Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 Re: Why's none talking about the Flanagan vs Hooker fight? Is no one interested in this fight? Does it reflect the promotion of the fight? A lack of personality about Flanagan or his fighting style? Or maybe all of the above? As a local lad to me, I don't mind seeing him do well. But he does seem to have the career of the typical Warren mould. A probable inflated record, padding with nobodies, gone somewhat under the radar and managed to pick up a vacated World title. I've no doubt he is a capable boxer, but probably comes unstuck at World level, like many Warren fighters before him that trod this path. I'm thinking people like Enzo Macarinelli, Nathan Cleverly, Kevin Mitchell, John murray and Gavin Rees (Think they were all Warren fighters anyway). Anyway the oddsmakers put Flanagan as a clear favourite. Does anyone know anything about this Hooker lad? Guessing he isn't quite in the same mould as the Americans that have come over in years gone by and taken world titles away with them, like Bradley, Crawford & Spence Does it reflect the promotion of the fight? A lack of personality about Flanagan or his fighting style? Or maybe all of the above? Not many fans seem interested in Flanagan. He really needs a big name on his record and Hooker isn't that name to get his the recognition he deserves. We have been getting articles on the fight Ton, but not many. Terry Flanagan Archives - - Boxing News - Ring News24 & maurice hooker Archives - - Boxing News - Ring News24 I managed to get an interview with Hooker Maurice Hooker aims to win every round against the ‘nothing special’ Terry Flanagan - I can’t wait to ‘punch him in the mouth’ - Boxing News - Ring News24 I reached out to the head of Flanagan's PR and was told contact me this day and we'll arrange an interview with Flanagan. After several emails, phone calls I gave up as nothing happened each time I reached out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoztheMadman Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 Re: Why's none talking about the Flanagan vs Hooker fight? The problem with Flanagan is, he just isn't great at anything and he isn't a good finisher, usually. He seems to have power but too often is incapable of finishing his man off when he has him hurt. That makes him a bad seller, to put it that way. Bad ticket-seller. And, he still hasn't really fought anyone worth mentioning. Zepeda may be the best guy he fought and he won by a fluke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selij Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 Re: Why's none talking about the Flanagan vs Hooker fight? Lets remember this - Turbo hasn't fought for well over a year due to shoulder issues and this is a step up in weight class too to fight a very tall lad in Hooker who is a natural SLW and has a 62% KO rate. This could be a massive banana skin for Turbo and I don't see the bookies' reasoning behind the odds unless they know something we dont. (Brown envelope). I'll be rooting for Turbo but I'm fearing the worst here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ton Posted June 8, 2018 Author Share Posted June 8, 2018 Re: Why's none talking about the Flanagan vs Hooker fight? Despite Terry's lack of profile, it's still a world title fight. Surprised it hadn't been mentioned here that's all. It's on social media being pushed by the promotion of course but most people are looking at the stateside fights this weekend and the return of Fury. I guess that in itself speaks volumes regarding this match up. Despite it being for a world title, it's of little importance for fight fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonRingRules Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 Re: Why's none talking about the Flanagan vs Hooker fight? --- international bout in Horn/Crawford and return of Tyson Fury bigger stuff. used to know a guy name of Flanagan and he was a deranged poet working as a dishwasher, so maybe some overlap to your Flanny, yes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoztheMadman Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 Re: Why's none talking about the Flanagan vs Hooker fight? --- international bout in Horn/Crawford and return of Tyson Fury bigger stuff. used to know a guy name of Flanagan and he was a deranged poet working as a dishwasher, so maybe some overlap to your Flanny, yes? :lmao: You know there are many people with that last name? :haha: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonRingRules Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 Re: Why's none talking about the Flanagan vs Hooker fight? --- media has hooker winning a split, but box rec has Flanagan winning. go figure after the dust and fog has cleared... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cableaddict Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 Re: Why's none talking about the Flanagan vs Hooker fight? Turned out to be a cracker of a fight. Split decision, but one judge was clearly on the take, and the other gave Hooker too many rounds. Still, the right man won. Hooker's kind of sloppy, but aggressive as heck. He appears to have insanely long arms, but he needs to learn how to use that advantage better. He was mixing it up with Flanagan far too much. Maybe time for a new trainer. The guy has serious potential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selij Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 Re: Why's none talking about the Flanagan vs Hooker fight? This could be a massive banana skin for Turbo As predicted.............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sould664 Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 Re: Why's none talking about the Flanagan vs Hooker fight? Close fight, could've seen it a Draw or slightly in favor of Hooker. Don't really think either fighter is anything special. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ton Posted June 11, 2018 Author Share Posted June 11, 2018 Re: Why's none talking about the Flanagan vs Hooker fight? As predicted.............. Good call, big man. It started off a bit shit but turned into a good watch. Hooker controlled the fight and Flanagan didn't really know what to do for the most part and showed his limitations. He seemed to give it a bit of a go later on probably when they knew they were losing the fight but really it was too late and he lacks the power for a stoppage. I had it pretty wide for Hooker 117-112 3 round to 8 with 1 even. Think it could probably have been scored closer but I prefered Hookers controlled work than Flanagans flailing and effort over substance. As for the official cards, well they were all over the place. I believe the USA judge had the wide Flanagan card while the UK judge had the wide Hooker card. Think this displays the overcompensation we often see from judges trying not to look biased in favour of their fellow nationals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robprosser Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 Re: Why's none talking about the Flanagan vs Hooker fight? I'd suspected for a while that Flanagan's greatest asset at lightweight was his ability to boil his welter frame down to 135lbs and stay strong. Looks to be the case unfortunately. He was clearly beaten by a guy who's decent by unexceptional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pittbox Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 Re: Why's none talking about the Flanagan vs Hooker fight? Honestly, I didn't think that Hooker has a chance, but from the start it looked like a disaster for Flanagan. He's not used to chasing opponent down and Hooker was moving enough. I had this one even. I'm pretty sure that several years ago Hooker wouldn't have won it, but it seems like judging is getting more and more honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cableaddict Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 Re: Why's none talking about the Flanagan vs Hooker fight? As for the official cards, well they were all over the place. I believe the USA judge had the wide Flanagan card while the UK judge had the wide Hooker card. Think this displays the overcompensation we often see from judges trying not to look biased in favour of their fellow nationals. Good point. ================= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
repsac Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 Re: Why's none talking about the Flanagan vs Hooker fight? I had Hooker winning by several points. But there were quite a few rounds that could've gone either way. I just felt Hooker did a little bit more to edge those rounds in his favor. Coincidently the last time i recall seeing Hooker fight was against Darleys Perez, another fight that had several swing rounds. If this is how Hooker plans to fight from now on, his reign as a WBO titleholder won't last all that long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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