creed Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Found this on another forum but thought it was an interesting question. You could argue Froch's resume is better than Kovalev's but if Ward wins which would you consider to be the better win? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonRingRules Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Re: What's A Better Win for Andre Ward, Froch or Kovalev? --- The only way he wins big fights is hometown officiating with liberal butts, elbows, hitting on the break, running and grabbing, so not much fight in him or credit due. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavpowell Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Re: What's A Better Win for Andre Ward, Froch or Kovalev? At the moment Froch because as you say, his record's better than Kovalev's at the moment. Kovalev has arguably shown a better technical side, but against who? Hopkins was a good win, as was Campillo but he's not really been in with the best in his division thus far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_budweiser Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Re: What's A Better Win for Andre Ward, Froch or Kovalev? At the moment Froch because as you say, his record's better than Kovalev's at the moment. Kovalev has arguably shown a better technical side, but against who? Hopkins was a good win, as was Campillo but he's not really been in with the best in his division thus far. What he said ^^^^^^^ I'd pick Froch because of his record but Kovalev would be another good scalp to have if he can win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshDevilRob Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Re: What's A Better Win for Andre Ward, Froch or Kovalev? Moving up a division and defeating the best fighter in that division rates higher in my book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtpt Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Re: What's A Better Win for Andre Ward, Froch or Kovalev? Joe calazghe in is prime but out of the two froch (the Plastic Joe) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavpowell Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Re: What's A Better Win for Andre Ward, Froch or Kovalev? froch (the Plastic Joe) The plastic Joe? There's not a lot of resemblance between them beyond being British and super-middleweights. Calzaghe was a completely different style and half a league above Froch in ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cableaddict Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Re: What's A Better Win for Andre Ward, Froch or Kovalev? Moving up a division and defeating the best fighter in that division rates higher in my book. This, no question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creed Posted September 28, 2016 Author Share Posted September 28, 2016 Re: What's A Better Win for Andre Ward, Froch or Kovalev? Joe calazghe in is prime but out of the two froch (the Plastic Joe) I don't think you get the question. It was whats a better win for Ward? Froch or Kovalev.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_ Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Re: What's A Better Win for Andre Ward, Froch or Kovalev? Kovalev a much better win than Froch, i admired Carl's courage but he's one of the most overrated fighters ever, being able to sell a fight to the Great British public against George Groves has to be the greatest achievement ever really, just astounding the hype for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonRingRules Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Re: What's A Better Win for Andre Ward, Froch or Kovalev? --- Even more astonishing the number of Brits who thought gorgeous george was gonna beat him. What kinda tea were they drinkin'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtpt Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 Re: What's A Better Win for Andre Ward, Froch or Kovalev? Hi, I did get the point but my point was why have froch as an option ?? for me froch was never the real deal compared to Joe thats why I said plastic Joe i.e. he should not have been an option hope this clears things up sorry I haven't replied up until now but been working Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavpowell Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 Re: What's A Better Win for Andre Ward, Froch or Kovalev? Hi, I did get the point but my point was why have froch as an option ?? for me froch was never the real deal compared to Joe thats why I said plastic Joe i.e. he should not have been an option hope this clears things up sorry I haven't replied up until now but been working Because they're the best he's faced, unless you count a fading Kessler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_ Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Re: What's A Better Win for Andre Ward, Froch or Kovalev? --- Even more astonishing the number of Brits who thought gorgeous george was gonna beat him. What kinda tea were they drinkin'? It was the same with Manny v Hatton, I was in a pub where they all to a man thought Hatton would win, i did tell them he didn't belong in the same ring as him but they weren't having any of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavpowell Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Re: What's A Better Win for Andre Ward, Froch or Kovalev? It was the same with Manny v Hatton, I was in a pub where they all to a man thought Hatton would win, i did tell them he didn't belong in the same ring as him but they weren't having any of it. To be fair, I said at the time it depended if Hatton could take Pacquiao's power - if he could, he might cause all sorts of problems. I hadn't of course realised Hatton was virtually shot by then, nor that he would fight like a complete idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pittbox Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Re: What's A Better Win for Andre Ward, Froch or Kovalev? When Froch was fighting Ward, he was after the defeat from Kessler, controversial win against Dirrell and not very impressive win on Johnson. People started to admire "Cobra" when he destroyed Bute and KOd Groves. Froch was treated as kind of a regular champion, until his last fights. It's clear that Kovalev is treated differently at this moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Ortega Nieto Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Re: What's A Better Win for Andre Ward, Froch or Kovalev? Now if I have to pick a winner I stay with Kovalev though Ward is probably the boxer to measure truly Russian. I think the weight and punch of Kovalev be what victory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cableaddict Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Re: What's A Better Win for Andre Ward, Froch or Kovalev? When Froch was fighting Ward, he was after the defeat from Kessler, controversial win against Dirrell and not very impressive win on Johnson. People started to admire "Cobra" when he destroyed Bute and KOd Groves. Froch was treated as kind of a regular champion, until his last fights. It's clear that Kovalev is treated differently at this moment. Good points. Kovalev is also bigger than Froch, stronger, much better at controlling the ring, and just plain meaner. And Ward is almost 6 years older. I just don't get all this Son Of Gollum love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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