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HATTON PROMOTIONS has welcomed the World Boxing Association’s resolution regarding Lucas “Big Daddy” Browne’s failed drug test following his title victory over Ruslan Chagaev in Grozny, Russia on March 5 this year.

 

In a document released on Tuesday (September 6), the world sanctioning body stated that Browne will be reinstated in its top five rankings and has ordered that he face leading contender Fres Oquendo for the vacant WBA heavyweight title within 120 days.

 

 

The WBA ruled that it was “unlikely Browne intentionally or voluntarily ingested clenbuterol in a single dose in the days leading up to the bout as the amount would not have gained any advantage”.

 

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Browne gets let off because it was a small amount, Povetkin suffers no sanction despite not being exonerated, while Olabumiwo is effectively pardoned for helping with investigations. Why wouldn't you cheat?

 

My thoughts entirely, and its not just boxing! Athletics and such they get a bit of a telling off a slap on the wrist anda year or two ban, then are allowed to compete again. Pointless!

 

What happened to people wanting to win or be the best by adhering to the rules?

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--- It ain't cheating what Browne and Povetkin were busted for.

 

It was incompetent WBC/WBA/USADA operations that have now been exposed as idiotic at best and civilly and criminally liable at worst which is why they caved in. Tens of millions have been lost forever thanks to those clowns who are gonna have to get with the program or go the way of the dinosaur. Trace readings over the counter piffle. Grade schoolers these days could create a better model than their circle of jerks.

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--- It ain't cheating what Browne and Povetkin were busted for.

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Povetkin hasn't technically been let off the hook, unlike Browne, but either way, they failed tests for things that do not naturally occur, so they should be busted. When Mayweather is alleged to have failed tests, you're all over the forum screaming about THE SMOKING GUN, but when it's someone else, you return to your usual rhetoric about the tests being worthless.

 

Certainly the testing agencies and governing bodies need to get their act together, but you'll note that nobody has mentioned Browne having a credible excuse, merely they decided he probably wasn't trying to cheat.

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--- Meldonium and clenbuterol are a part of the global food chain, impossible to escape unless one forswears processed foods and takes up organic foods and even that is problematic when they could be drinking water..

 

Yes, Browne prob not tring to cheat and you not trying to think. We understand.

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The WBA ruled that it was “unlikely Browne intentionally or voluntarily ingested clenbuterol in a single dose in the days leading up to the bout as the amount would not have gained any advantage”.

 

The WBA have many, many faults but seem to have seen sense on this rare occassion. Good on them. I knew Browne wasn't upto anything. Should be re-instated as champion.

 

Russia is one dodgy place, when it comes to PED's and spiking, I don't blame any fighter who decides not to go and fight there. Luis Ortiz wisely turned down a date in Russia.

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Strength of character shown by Luis. He knows Russia is a den of Ped's and tricks but as a recovering user, he chose to resist temptation. I'm sure we all applaud him for that.

 

Were steroids something Ortiz used when he was in Cuba or when he got to the states?

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Dunno about Cuba, but he was busted for hard steroids in 2014 in a WBA interim title match against Lateef Koyode. He's been poorly trained and managed like most boxers.

 

 

If you read the details of that ruling, though, it was EXTREMELY questionable. I think someone with a lot of pull wanted Ortiz out of the picture for a while.

 

I'm not saying it was Wlad, mind you, but.... No wait, I'm EXACTLY saying it was Wlad. :whistle:

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If you read the details of that ruling, though, it was EXTREMELY questionable. I think someone with a lot of pull wanted Ortiz out of the picture for a while.

 

Povetkin is a mountain of muscle and you say "Come on guys, he's OBVIOUSLY cheating, look at him!"

 

Ortiz is a mountain of muscle(and looks 107 years old) and you say "Come on guys, he was OBVIOUSLY framed!"

 

Consistent, aren't you?

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Povetkin is a mountain of muscle and you say "Come on guys, he's OBVIOUSLY cheating, look at him!"

 

Ortiz is a mountain of muscle(and looks 107 years old) and you say "Come on guys, he was OBVIOUSLY framed!"

 

Consistent, aren't you?

 

What's consistent?

 

I look at the details of each situation. You reduce both to one simple sentence and say : "Look, most of the words are the same!"

 

 

Also, Povetkin is a "mountain of muscle" (a large hill, actually) who noticably got significantly stronger, faster, and with increased stamina, at an old age (for boxing) and practically overnight. Ortiz has always looked the way he does now. In fact, he's noticeably slower than a few years ago. And the details of his suspension case are laughable. Do a little research.

 

Dude ....

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What's consistent?

 

I look at the details of each situation. You reduce both to one simple sentence and say : "Look, most of the words are the same!"

 

 

Also, Povetkin is a "mountain of muscle" (a large hill, actually) who noticably got significantly stronger, faster, and with increased stamina, at an old age (for boxing) and practically overnight. Ortiz has always looked the way he does now. In fact, he's noticeably slower than a few years ago. And the details of his suspension case are laughable. Do a little research.

 

Dude ....

 

You don't really assess each case on its merits as decide something and invent silly conspiracy theories to fit themm and because you like Ortiz, you've decided he must be the victim, same as Browne - because only innocent people do stupid things.

 

I've done a little research - I always do - and there's nothing remarkable about his suspension, except the excuses he made. So enlighten us - what's so special about Ortiz's case that's so ridiculous?

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Looks like boxing bodies try to ignore drug rullings and it may be reasonable, because some cases clearly stink.

 

Personally, I think there should be a unified, consistent and draconian response to all drug cases - if you can't prove it was a contaminated supplement or a lab error, you're banned. The only way to try stamping out cheating is by making it too risky.

 

It's about time professional sportspeople took responsibility for their entire camp - you get a list of every banned substance and you check any supplements against the list. You submit a list/sample of everything you're taking as part of the drug testing regime. If you fail, you need to prove it was beyond your control or you're out.

 

 

That way, we get no "Oh I was working with this guy who says he's a red hot nutritionist" or "Oh I did meet Victor Conte but I thought he was giving me flaxseed oil."

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They will never have consistency because there are too many grey areas and too many different cases. Unless we invent a lie detector that is 100% accurate we will never be able to ensure that cheats are always punished properly and innocent people are let off.

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