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Dimitrenko-yes you heard it, Sascha Dimitrenko! The fight is supposed to happen 1 October in New Zealand. No doubt this is just a practice and a preparation for the giants Wilder and Joshua. Dimitrenko is 6'7, as tall as Wilder. And he hasn't been relevant in the big picture for years. Since 2012, when Pulev koed him. Parker should handle him easily, if he is really what I think he is.
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--- Goes without saying that slow learners still ain't figured out Parker hugely ahead of Wilder at the same age.

 

Dimitrenko just barely under arreola in boxrec ranking and better than 90% of Wilder comp.

 

 

True.

 

- And it took Wilder 33 fights to finally get a shot at title. You think this is some kind of blueprint to aspire to?

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You guys, you guys...must you always be so down on new fighters??

 

He's been a pro for 4 years. He is fighting in a boxing backwater against nobodies who will do nothing but pad his record, has fought one decent opponent and is now officially ready to take on the world.

 

Except that decent opponent very nearly beat him and exposed horrible flaws in his technique and understanding. In response to these flaws, he has continued on the same path he was treading before Takam.

 

So yes, I will be down on him and any other fighter who takes the Frank Warren approach to career development.

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He's been a pro for 4 years. He is fighting in a boxing backwater against nobodies who will do nothing but pad his record, has fought one decent opponent and is now officially ready to take on the world.

 

Except that decent opponent very nearly beat him and exposed horrible flaws in his technique and understanding. In response to these flaws, he has continued on the same path he was treading before Takam.

 

So yes, I will be down on him and any other fighter who takes the Frank Warren approach to career development.

 

You are miles of Gav. Not sure why the hate on this guy and who you are expecting him to be fighting - name them and put us all out of our misery?

 

If Joshua or Parker fight someone then it's a waste of time and there are all these monsters that they should be fighting (at a young stage of their Heavyweight careers). Who should they be fighting, Gav?

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You are miles of Gav. Not sure why the hate on this guy and who you are expecting him to be fighting - name them and put us all out of our misery?

 

If Joshua or Parker fight someone then it's a waste of time and there are all these monsters that they should be fighting (at a young stage of their Heavyweight careers). Who should they be fighting, Gav?

Good heavens, is it the weekend already?

 

Who mentioned monsters?

In the case of both Joshua and Parker there is no reason they shouldn't fight each other sooner than November, though I see Parker getting destroyed.

 

Meanwhile, an ideal opponent for Parker would be someone like Lucas Browne, who is tall and hard-hitting like Joshua, is local to Australia and has lost his world title with, I would think, little realistic chance of being offered a big fight in the near future. Put on an Aussie megafight Browne will need the money and be keen to prove he's a cut above the likes of Parker, try to angle for a Joshua fight himself. Parker will want to prove he can beat a "world champion" It's probably considered too high-risk of course, but I'd like to see that.

 

Otherwise, it rather depends - if Parker is intent on staying in Australia, his options are deeply limited unless he can offer big money to get a decent name.

 

If he's prepared to travel, he could go for Perez in Canada(not as tall as Joshua but good workrate and good chin), Bryant Jennings or Gerald Washington in the US or David Price in the UK, or his conqueror Teper, who has to fight outside Europe anyway at the moment.

 

Alexander Ustinov's about to face antique drug cheat Luis Ortiz for the WBA interim, so I would suggest he and Parker would be a good pairing, or even a decent defence for Joshua.

 

Some of those fights are risky, but Parker has shown some real talent in the way he puts his punches together, he's just incredibly raw in terms of defence and is so used to having things his own way he can't adapt quickly enough.

 

He needs to be taking risks if he's going to learn - there's no way he can win a fight with Joshua without guile and defense - Joshua will flatten him before he gets close enough to land in my opinion.

 

EDIT: That's not to say I don't understood the logic behind Dimitrenko - he's the same size as Joshua, more or less, but he's also been fighting journeymen in Germany for several years now, showing no signs that he's doing anything but seeing out the rest of his career picking up easy purses. I don't believe he'll even try to give Parker a fight, but if he does, I'll be delighted.

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Good heavens, is it the weekend already?

 

Who mentioned monsters?

In the case of both Joshua and Parker there is no reason they shouldn't fight each other sooner than November, though I see Parker getting destroyed.

 

Meanwhile, an ideal opponent for Parker would be someone like Lucas Browne, who is tall and hard-hitting like Joshua, is local to Australia and has lost his world title with, I would think, little realistic chance of being offered a big fight in the near future. Put on an Aussie megafight Browne will need the money and be keen to prove he's a cut above the likes of Parker, try to angle for a Joshua fight himself. Parker will want to prove he can beat a "world champion" It's probably considered too high-risk of course, but I'd like to see that.

 

Otherwise, it rather depends - if Parker is intent on staying in Australia, his options are deeply limited unless he can offer big money to get a decent name.

 

If he's prepared to travel, he could go for Perez in Canada(not as tall as Joshua but good workrate and good chin), Bryant Jennings or Gerald Washington in the US or David Price in the UK, or his conqueror Teper, who has to fight outside Europe anyway at the moment.

 

Alexander Ustinov's about to face antique drug cheat Luis Ortiz for the WBA interim, so I would suggest he and Parker would be a good pairing, or even a decent defence for Joshua.

 

Some of those fights are risky, but Parker has shown some real talent in the way he puts his punches together, he's just incredibly raw in terms of defence and is so used to having things his own way he can't adapt quickly enough.

 

He needs to be taking risks if he's going to learn - there's no way he can win a fight with Joshua without guile and defense - Joshua will flatten him before he gets close enough to land in my opinion.

 

It can't be the weekend, as you haven't answered the question. You continually knock these guys development, so I wondered your plan - not next step. Your posts have a flavour of that they have fought no one but when a name is mentioned they are gonna destroy them. - confusing.

 

I don't know where all these killer Heavyweights that they should be facing are, given their lack of fights, you seem to know - so teach us. The last reply wasn't really there.

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It can't be the weekend, as you haven't answered the question. You continually knock these guys development, so I wondered your plan

 

No you didn't, you wondered:

Not sure why the hate on this guy and who you are expecting him to be fighting - name them and put us all out of our misery?

 

So I did.

 

I fear your misery will come when you sober up, but there's nothing I can do for you now. As for a plan? Take things one fight at a time - it doesn't do to look past any opponent ;-)

 

Although in the case of certain heavyweights, you need to be a fair distance before you can look past them anyway.

 

Joshua in particular is entitled to no free passes - he is a world champion, albeit a paper one. As a world champion, he should be fighting the very best available in his division - you're either a novice or a world champion, but you can't be both.

 

I firmly believe Joshua could beat most of the heavyweights in the division, but I would have liked to see him work his way through British and European class in traditional fashion, getting a broad range of experiences. Similar for Parker. Unfortunately, they've become marketable far too quickly and far further on than they have proven.

 

So if I had my way, Joshua would be getting his Lonsdale belt to keep around now, while Parker would be trying out defensive improvements on a few durable heavies, though he may have to import/travel. Maybe even rematch Takam the way Fury did McDermott.

 

But they have been duly appointed world champion and number one contender, so they should be fighting each other or the likes of the men I've listed - you can't be a world champion and ask for special treatment because you're not ready.

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--- The international aspect of AJ fighting what used to be American prospects but now champ and contender should be factored in.

 

Go look at who Ali was fighting for his 16th and 17th fights, and who can pray tell us how they would beat Martin and Breazeale. In a 4-5 title belt era, AJ has one as good or better than Lonsdale, so the only question for me is how does he prove he can go 40rds against Jess Willard? Jack Johnson couldn't and he's on the HOF.

 

Now, if he can only prove he could fight unlimited rds bareknucks then and only then we could annoint him. In the meantime the IBF will have to do with Parker and Wilder waiting in the queue.

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Go look at who Ali was fighting for his 16th and 17th fights, and who can pray tell us how they would beat Martin and Breazeale.

Nobody has ever said Ali's early opposition was brilliant, and as it isn't 1962 that's all completely irrelevant. I am a boxing fan now, not in 1962, so my criticisms reflect the situation as it is now.

 

Frankly, if the fighters and promoters didn't give credit to the multi-belt fiasco, it would die off.

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No you didn't, you wondered:

 

 

So I did.

 

I fear your misery will come when you sober up, but there's nothing I can do for you now. As for a plan? Take things one fight at a time - it doesn't do to look past any opponent ;-)

 

Although in the case of certain heavyweights, you need to be a fair distance before you can look past them anyway.

 

Joshua in particular is entitled to no free passes - he is a world champion, albeit a paper one. As a world champion, he should be fighting the very best available in his division - you're either a novice or a world champion, but you can't be both.

 

I firmly believe Joshua could beat most of the heavyweights in the division, but I would have liked to see him work his way through British and European class in traditional fashion, getting a broad range of experiences. Similar for Parker. Unfortunately, they've become marketable far too quickly and far further on than they have proven.

 

So if I had my way, Joshua would be getting his Lonsdale belt to keep around now, while Parker would be trying out defensive improvements on a few durable heavies, though he may have to import/travel. Maybe even rematch Takam the way Fury did McDermott.

 

But they have been duly appointed world champion and number one contender, so they should be fighting each other or the likes of the men I've listed - you can't be a world champion and ask for special treatment because you're not ready.

 

Chris Eubank went back to British level. He is too good to be doing that. Joshua has already dealt with Cornish and Whyte, do we really think a fight with Sam Sexton or even John McDermott is better than fighting Breazeale or Martin - I don't. Is David Price going to give more resistance than Martin or Johnson - doubt it. Fury is a World champ, Haye is fighting on Dave. Chisora is an option and still is though I can't see him winning. Parker is taking care of his national rivals down in Oceanica, and getting criticised for doing so.

 

I have no problem with Parker fighting the names you suggest and would welcome them. Bryant Jennings to me gets more credit than he deserves but is a test. Washington falls into the Martin and Breazeale type category - prospect with obvious flaws.

 

Parker or Joshua could take on and beat Luis Ortiz and then there would be claims the Cuban is an old man. I personally think Alexander Dimitrenko is a good fight for Parker - given his height and ability. All the champions are tall, so its a decent prep fight. Ustinov would be good but he's got his title-shot - so not possible right now. Maybe, would be an idea for Parker to box on the same card as Joshua, gain him some traveling experience and the atmosphere of the Joshua crowd.

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I have been a huge fan of Parker for a couple of years now.

 

He beats Joshua in my opinion. The longer this fight takes to materialise the better for Joshua.

 

 

I agree. Folks are reading way too much into Parker's sort of lackluster performance against Takam. Takam is a dangerous fighter and Parker wisely fought reserved & careful.

Parker didn't look GREAT, and took some punches he shouldn't have, but he still has a much better offensive arsenal than AJ.

 

AJ has literally only fought ONE SINGLE pro opponent that actually tried to punch back at him. That was Whyte, and Whyte had no trouble landing. Whyte's problem was that his punches were sloppy, and he didn't throw enough combinations. . Parker tends to land clean, and with huge flurries. He's in your face all night, and throws from all sorts of angles, including to the body. AJ has never faced anyone even remotely like this guy.

 

Then again, AJ has that true "1 punch" power, which will always be an equalizer, and Parker prefers to fight close or from mid-range, giving AJ ample opportunities.

 

Neither man has yet faced anything even remotely resembling an elite opponents, and both men continue to improve with almost every fight, so really it's a 50-50 bout, IMO.

 

If it ever even happens. :noidea:

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