WelshDevilRob Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Lucian Bute Fails Drug Test, Positive For Ostarine in Jack Draw The World Boxing Council has been notified by the D. C. Boxing and Wrestling Commission about an adverse finding for the banned substance “Ostarine" in the post fight anti doping test from Lucian Bute . Bute challenged Badou Jack for the WBC super middleweight championship, fight which took place in Washington, D. C. on April 30, 2016 , which resulted in a draw . The D. C. Boxing and Wrestling Commission will follow its rules and regulations regarding antidoping and will be in consultation with the WBC and its Clean Boxing Program. Further news will be known in the coming days. Ostarine, which is a selective androgen receptor modulator (SARM), may be used by athletes to assist in training and increase physical stamina and fitness, potentially producing effects similar to anabolic steroids. For this reason, SARMs were banned by the World Anti-Doping Agency in January 2008 despite no drugs from this class yet being in clinical use, and blood tests for all known SARMs have been developed. In June 2013, professional cyclist Nikita Novikov was provisionally suspended after a possible breach of anti-doping rules, due to a positive A-sample result for ostarine. UFC Fighter Tim Means was pulled from a fight in February of 2016 after testing positive for Ostarine in a pre-fight drug screening administered by USADA. In June 2015 Azerbaijan's Chaltu Beji has tested positive for doping at the 2015 European Games in Baku. The 18-year-old Ethiopian-born Beji tested positive for the banned substance ostarine in a urine sample with a B sample confirming the result. She won the 3,000 meter steeplechase event despite falling at the last water jump, she was disqualified because of the positive tests. Source: BoxingScene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selij Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Re: Lucian Bute Fails Drug Test Proper doping, bless him, none of your clenbuterol bollox and blaming it on asthma inhalers. Hardcore Lucien :thumb: Cya down the gym.......up the racks or down? Anyone got any sterile needles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavpowell Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Re: Lucian Bute Fails Drug Test Proper doping, bless him, none of your clenbuterol bollox and blaming it on asthma inhalers. Hardcore Lucien :thumb: Cya down the gym.......up the racks or down? Anyone got any sterile needles? You've got it all wrong, he's never even heard of Ostarine and anyway it's often found in Bombay mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selij Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Re: Lucian Bute Fails Drug Test You've got it all wrong, he's never even heard of Ostarine and anyway it's often found in Bombay mix. cue the monkeys..........and mind that needle you might fall onto it in the showers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonRingRules Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 (edited) Re: Lucian Bute Fails Drug Test --- Another nickel and dime drug fail and proof that boxing doesn't have a major drug problem like the nfl/nba/international soccer. Time to test the drug testers and boxing officials if we want to go after the really big game, or bigger still Hollywood, politicians, and business leaders. Alas, the drug testers can't bite the hands that feed them, so back to nickel and dime fluff. - And right there is the main problem. VADA, USADA, etc ... none of these are some kind of "untouchable, irrefutable" organizations. They were created by ordinary people, and their main goal is to make money. Floyd put untold millions into VADA, you think they would ever bust him for anything? Every organization can be bought or influenced, and absolutely ANYTHING can happen behind their closed doors. There is zero oversight, & zero guarantee of credibility. - but people see these acronyms and just automatically think these organizations are somehow guaranteed to be honest and / or careful. Puh-leeeez. It's exactly like how all the bank-rating organizations used to give garbage home owner loans triple-A ratings, so the banks (that hired these organizations) could sell crap for big bucks. We all know how THAT turned out. Millions of Americans lost their homes as the rich monsters got richer. (Sadly, it's still going on.) Oh wait, boxing is 100% legit! I keep forgetting ........ ;-) Edited May 27, 2016 by Cableaddict Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshDevilRob Posted May 27, 2016 Author Share Posted May 27, 2016 Re: Lucian Bute Fails Drug Test Lucian Bute statement on failed drug test Lucian Bute was informed of the results of the anti-doping test done after his World Boxing Council (WBC) world title fight against Badou Jack, April 30, in Washington, D.C. As reported in a statement sent by the WBC, the Washington D.C. Boxing and Wrestling Commission informed them that Bute tested positive for Ostarine, in an A sample analysis, after the bout. ”I am surprised and sorry about this. I don’t understand what led to this positive result, Bute said. “I have always passed every anti-doping test that I was asked to take since I won a world title. More recently for my fight against James DeGale, in Quebec City, last November, I was tested eight times from before my training camp until after my fight. I have never taken any illegal products. I have a complete trust in my team. There will be an analysis of the B sample and I am sure that this result will be negative.” ”GYM has always been strongly in favor of a strict anti-doping policy to keep the sport of boxing clean,” GYM president Yvon Michel remarked. “We are really surprised by this first result and we now hope that the B sample proves that the first result was wrong. Until then, we support Lucian Bute.” Read more: Lucian Bute statement on failed drug test - - Boxing News - Ring News24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerald Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Re: Lucian Bute Fails Drug Test Sounds like the B sample is still being tested. I genuinely hope this comes back negative but I suppose with every sport it's better to catch the cheats and weather the bad publicity than it is to fail to catch them in the first place. The increased testing feels like it's catching more and more fighters - I know that's part of the point but it really makes you worry about the level of illegal substance use in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonRingRules Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Re: Lucian Bute Fails Drug Test --- Cable, you placed your reply in my post. And no, TUE was never aligned with vada, he bought out USADA . At any rate, the use of hyperbolic chambers confers more advantage than these nickel and dime busts and is perfectly legal even if poorer fighters can't afford their use. Also being able to pay for better sparring partners confers an unfair advantage, so the so called cartel run war on drugs is just another public relations sham designed to divert attention from always ongoing business skulduggery. In days of yore, fighters partook of whiskey or schnapps, so were they cheats? Why can't I have my shot of whiskey with my shot at TUE, or better yet, that drug cheat travis Tygart? He'd fail me as a cheat, but recuse himself because he and TUE are cleaning out...errrr...up boxing, or so the cognoscenti inform us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshDevilRob Posted May 27, 2016 Author Share Posted May 27, 2016 Re: Lucian Bute Fails Drug Test Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshDevilRob Posted May 27, 2016 Author Share Posted May 27, 2016 Re: Lucian Bute Fails Drug Test --- Cable, you placed your reply in my post. And no, TUE was never aligned with vada, he bought out USADA . At any rate, the use of hyperbolic chambers confers more advantage than these nickel and dime busts and is perfectly legal even if poorer fighters can't afford their use. Also being able to pay for better sparring partners confers an unfair advantage, so the so called cartel run war on drugs is just another public relations sham designed to divert attention from always ongoing business skulduggery. In days of yore, fighters partook of whiskey or schnapps, so were they cheats? Why can't I have my shot of whiskey with my shot at TUE, or better yet, that drug cheat travis Tygart? He'd fail me as a cheat, but recuse himself because he and TUE are cleaning out...errrr...up boxing, or so the cognoscenti inform us. Cable sort your eye-site out - Quote and Edit Post are two different buttons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selij Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Re: Lucian Bute Fails Drug Test Sounds like the B sample is still being tested. I genuinely hope this comes back negative The B-Sample IS the A-Sample - split into 2 from the same orig piss pot sample. The B-Sample goes for CIR (carbon isotope ratio) testing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxeador Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Re: Lucian Bute Fails Drug Test The B-Sample will be positive, as 99 percent of the time. I am not confident on Bute´s been clean. If he can´t handle boxing without help, it´s time for him to retire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sould664 Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Re: Lucian Bute Fails Drug Test The B-Sample will be positive, as 99 percent of the time. I am not confident on Bute´s been clean. If he can´t handle boxing without help, it´s time for him to retire. Agreed! Hope it comes back negative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeboxing Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Re: Lucian Bute Fails Drug Test this type of shit is putting a black eye on boxing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JrGooNer Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Re: Lucian Bute Fails Drug Test Seems like 1 or 2 new 'athletes' are pissing hot every week now but this one has disappointed me more than the others for some reason. If he really was PEDding does that make the people who beat him [froch, degale etc] look even better in a way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonRingRules Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Re: Lucian Bute Fails Drug Test --- Boxing's been the busted up black eye of sports from inception. Ever since they hooked up USADA/Tygart enabling TUE-49-0, how much lower can boxing go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strikehearts Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 Re: Lucian Bute Fails Drug Test this seems to be happening way more often all of the sudden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elabel Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 Re: Lucian Bute Fails Drug Test It´s sad to see good guys like lucian take ped´s. Over the last 7 Years i´ve seen every fight of him. He wasn´t the best man at 168 but still a really good boxer with good power. The same with povetkin. At the time he was under the german promoter he doesn´t impress but aber 2013 he improve´s a lot. He take more risks and took on better opponents. But now all stand under a dark star with taking the PED´s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JrGooNer Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 Re: Lucian Bute Fails Drug Test The B-Sample IS the A-Sample - split into 2 from the same orig piss pot sample. The B-Sample goes for CIR (carbon isotope ratio) testing. Exactly, the b sample is literally just the other half of the piss. I think a lot of people on twitter etc seem to think the b sample might ever be different when really the only way it ever will be is if they accidentally contaminated the equipment while testing the a sample Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_budweiser Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 Re: Lucian Bute Fails Drug Test Not good news but I'm left thinking how many are cheating in current boxing who haven't been caught yet. Is fame, money and success more important than someone's life? These guys need banned for life! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonRingRules Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 (edited) Re: Lucian Bute Fails Drug Test --- Or just retired with a $300 million harvest in the bank like TUE 49-0. Cleaning up boxing...only in boxing! Edited May 29, 2016 by LondonRingRules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Ortega Nieto Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 Re: Lucian Bute Fails Drug Test Too bad the Romanian tested positive, this is what happens when you do not know retire on time and your body does not respond as when I was at the peak of his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshDevilRob Posted May 30, 2016 Author Share Posted May 30, 2016 Re: Lucian Bute Fails Drug Test I'm pretty suspicious of any aging fighter who is still performing at the top of the sport - something must be keeping them going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
repsac Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Re: Lucian Bute Fails Drug Test I'm pretty suspicious of any aging fighter who is still performing at the top of the sport - something must be keeping them going. I tend to agree. Especially at the lower weights where fighters used to be done by 28 or 29 years old. Lots of athletics toeing the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonRingRules Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Re: Lucian Bute Fails Drug Test --- Plenty of historical fighters in the past fought well past traditional prime years at high levels. Modern health care and surgical advances extend many fighters, but of course TUEs ruin the sport for everyone. My wife worked in a small office of a half dozen women. One day a petty theft of a personal item occurred that sadly left everyone suspicious of each other in what had been a happy place to work. Selj tells me it's impossible to pack on a 10% increase in muscle mass in athletic prime years in just 3 months time, yet I did exactly that well into my 50s to prove a point during the baseball drug debates with nothing but massive workouts and slight increase in my meat consumption. These illicit drug testing cartels have failed to harvest any big cheats like TUE, so like any petty overly officious police state, they focus on tiny infractions of over the counter legal supplements and pharmaceuticals so they can remain relevant to their illicit big money paymasters who could never pass these tests. In a dirty, filthy world, all of a sudden boxers are supposed to be Pollyannas? Well, after genetic splicing and recombination, pigs indeed may well be flying...only in boxing...now where's my flying pig smily? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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