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Re: Who should have won a world title but did not?

 

What comes to mind was Dereck Chisora vs Robert Helenius - was that for a world title?

 

European - Helenius was the holder, deserved to lose. Cable will tell you it's because he was forced to fight with a dodgy shoulder - I'll tell you that's his problem and he still lost.

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Denis Lebedev should have had the WBO (i think) CW title, when he was blatantly robbed vs Marco Huck.

 

Ken Norton deserved a win over Ali in their third fight.

 

If you include the Ams, then Cammarelle should have won the SHW gold in the London Olympics, over AJ.

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I would like to know who you guys think was worthy of a world title but never won one.

 

Tony Sibson, without a doubt with correct management in this day and age, would have deffo won a version of a world title. Lost to Marvellous for the WBA and WBC World Middleweight titles, stepped up to light heavy and lost to Denis Andries too. And in a final escapade stepped back down again and lost the IBF World Middleweight title to Frank Tate and retired, bless him.

 

Fantastic East Midlands boxer, totally mismanaged.

 

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If you include the Ams, then Cammarelle should have won the SHW gold in the London Olympics, over AJ.

 

Not a fucking chance :nono:........beat him in 2011 at the AIBA and convincingly beat him again at London 2012

 

 

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Re: Who should have won a world title but did not?

 

Eder Cherry deserved to have the IBF belt around his waist after his fight with Pedraza. I'm not saying Cherry was/is great, just that he deserved it on that night.

 

No list is complete unless Sam Langford is mentioned. Howard Davis as well.

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Re: Who should have won a world title but did not?

 

Blind British love knows no bounds!

 

 

:laugh:

 

Maybe you misunderstood the question. There is no mention of British, in the question posed. Unless you are replying to the comments about AJ as an amateur? One of my answers would have been Ruben Castillo. How unlucky can you get? He had to fight three of the best ever champs, Arguello, Sanchez and J.C.Chavez for three of his title shots and the one guy he had a good chance against, was on his best form ever, Laporte.

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Re: Who should have won a world title but did not?

 

Denis Lebedev should have had the WBO (i think) CW title, when he was blatantly robbed vs Marco Huck.

 

Ken Norton deserved a win over Ali in their third fight.

 

If you include the Ams, then Cammarelle should have won the SHW gold in the London Olympics, over AJ.

If I included amateurs, then Roy Jones and Holyfield would be at the top of my list.

I totally agree about Norton, and would have given him all three decisions if I were a judge.

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Tony Sibson, without a doubt with correct management in this day and age, would have deffo won a version of a world title. Lost to Marvellous for the WBA and WBC World Middleweight titles, stepped up to light heavy and lost to Denis Andries too. And in a final escapade stepped back down again and lost the IBF World Middleweight title to Frank Tate and retired, bless him.

 

Fantastic East Midlands boxer, totally mismanaged.

 

http://www.champsuk.com/products/images/1099.jpg

I was a big Sibson fan. He was a really quiet, humble man, but a powerhouse in the ring.

I always remember Minter saying that if Hagler had not come along, then he would still be champ......he must have suffered memory loss after Sibson flattened him, or maybe he would have avoided a rematch.

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I couldn't think of anyone for this thread, and then I realised - me! I should have won at least one world title, if I'd obnly learnt to box, had a measure of amateur success, turned professional, climbed the ranks and paid the right bribes. I coulda been a contenda!

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I couldn't think of anyone for this thread, and then I realised - me! I should have won at least one world title, if I'd obnly learnt to box, had a measure of amateur success, turned professional, climbed the ranks and paid the right bribes. I coulda been a contenda!

 

No pal, you would also need the right management, to get you fights against names the public recognize, but were from lighter weights or washed up....or both. Again love the sarcastic wit.

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Ibeabuchi was incredible! His ten round fight with Tua had more punches than any heavyweight fight in history, even though many others went three extra rounds!

His chin was granite, his will, tremendous, his power, terrific, he had it all, in the ring, but like Tony Ayala, he had an evil side to him, that derailed his career.

Laing had natural skill, but was ridiculously unprofessional. He couldn't beat Colin Jones though.

Ron Lyle KO'd Shavers, almost KO'd Foreman, and gave Ali a decent fight. If he had not been in prison, he could have been a champ, in his own era, let alone a different one.

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--- Little known that Sam Langford actually did win a portion of the heavyweight in an epic 20 round fight with Joe Jeannette in Paris. Langford was in full prime and dominated Joe who took some unholy punishment.

 

Fight came off the day after Jack Johnson's travesty with Battling Jim Johnson where Jack quit on his stool and was given a draw. The French authorities stripped him immediately because he was supposed to defend against Langford, not Battling Jim who I think was scheduled to meet Jeannette. And the French being the French, they later stripped Langford, for what purpose I don't know other than he fought a journeyman in Paris shortly thereafter which may have upset them.

 

At any rate, the Black and White Heavyweight titles that others had over the years and defended were about as valid as the individual ABC titles we have today. David Tua should have held a belt but was mismanaged. He ran through future titlists like a knife through butter.

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Re: Who should have won a world title but did not?

 

--- Little known that Sam Langford actually did win a portion of the heavyweight in an epic 20 round fight with Joe Jeannette in Paris. Langford was in full prime and dominated Joe who took some unholy punishment.

 

Fight came off the day after Jack Johnson's travesty with Battling Jim Johnson where Jack quit on his stool and was given a draw. The French authorities stripped him immediately because he was supposed to defend against Langford, not Battling Jim who I think was scheduled to meet Jeannette. And the French being the French, they later stripped Langford, for what purpose I don't know other than he fought a journeyman in Paris shortly thereafter which may have upset them.

 

At any rate, the Black and White Heavyweight titles that others had over the years and defended were about as valid as the individual ABC titles we have today. David Tua should have held a belt but was mismanaged. He ran through future titlists like a knife through butter.

 

Excellent points, as always. The likes of Harry Wills get ignored due to a lack of knowledge.

Agree about David Tua.

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Re: Who should have won a world title but did not?

 

Rocky Juarez?

 

Good call! I'd forgotten about that - Barrera's apologetic interview after the draw was announced, saying Juarez beat him and deserved to win....only to be interrupted with an amended scorecard that made Barrera the winner.

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Good call! I'd forgotten about that - Barrera's apologetic interview after the draw was announced, saying Juarez beat him and deserved to win....only to be interrupted with an amended scorecard that made Barrera the winner.

What a revelation that is! A boxer saying that the other guy should have won, is as rare as boobs in a Disney cartoon.

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