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Re: Anthony Joshua Fighting Charles Martin for the IBF World Heavyweight title

 

I believe AJ can beat him. Can...will he, thats another question. This Martin seems to be somewhat of an early-hyped fighter. He got hyped before he really proved himself, that short fight against Glazkov isn't enough.

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--- Glad to see a pair of prospects man up for a fight.

 

Used to be the norm in boxing until the divas, posers, and chicken hearted runners took over boxing. Let's hope it's the start of a new trend the rebuild boxing's reputation.

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--- Glad to see a pair of prospects man up for a fight.

 

Used to be the norm in boxing until the divas, posers, and chicken hearted runners took over boxing. Let's hope it's the start of a new trend the rebuild boxing's reputation.

Yeah, plus the CATCHWEIGHT KINGS. I really despise catchweight fights, esp when they are done for no reason, if this person from the lower class can make that weight etc. It's so 21st century.

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I hope he loses, to be honest - he's not deserving of a world title fight and has sooo many flaws to fix first.

 

Does anyone remember when a world title was a reward for years of hard work and dedication to your craft?

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I hope he loses, to be honest - he's not deserving of a world title fight and has sooo many flaws to fix first.

 

Does anyone remember when a world title was a reward for years of hard work and dedication to your craft?

 

Maybe we should just ignore the fact Martin has the IBF title, since it should still belong to Fury.

 

Slightly surprised Martin signed on for this fight. He's gonna have to travel to the UK, i don't think he's ever fought out of the US, and for his first defense. I wonder if his handlers are cashing out, or if they realistically see the flaws in Joshua and expect to exploit them.

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Maybe we should just ignore the fact Martin has the IBF title, since it should still belong to Fury.

 

Slightly surprised Martin signed on for this fight. He's gonna have to travel to the UK, i don't think he's ever fought out of the US, and for his first defense. I wonder if his handlers are cashing out, or if they realistically see the flaws in Joshua and expect to exploit them.

 

I agree - if anything, boxing's sanctioning bodies continue to prove their own irrelevance; if Fury vacated every belt tomorrow, would he be seen as any less of a champion? I think it was Barrera-Morales 3 where they both decided they didn't need a belt so it was essentuially a non-title fight. Cue the WBC rushing in at the last minute to throw in a belt.

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To me it's just like LRR said, 2 prospects facing one another. There's lessons to learn, even in defeat. Test a fighter and see what he's made of, instead of padding his record against no hope opposition. (I wasn't calling Whyte no hope, just everyone else Joshua has faced)

 

With Morales and Barrera it helped they had HBO backing them.

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Martin is very sloppy, but also very powerful with deceptively FAST hands. (He varies his timing a lot.)

 

AJ is slower, but easily as powerful, and he knows how to take his time. However, AJ also has questionable defense.

 

One of these guys is definitely going to enjoy a nice canvas sandwich. The one left standing will be a (barely) legit fringe-contender.

 

 

 

I don't personally rate either man that highly, but this is a FASCINATING fight, and should be a huge crowd-pleaser.

(unless the mob gets involved and forces a decision, after everyone bets on the under.)

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I am surprised Hearn took this route but if you look at their top 10 it's fairly weaker than the WBC , WBA and the WBO's.

 

It will be interesting when he has to face a mandatory, will Hearn make an excuse to go a different route or take the fight? Still waiting on Joshua vs Fury and Joshua vs Haye that Hearn said would of happened by now :lmao:

 

Bit embarrassing who ever holds this title as it's rightfully Tyson Fury's.

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It will be interesting when he has to face a mandatory, will Hearn make an excuse to go a different route or take the fight?

The mandatory will come from the IBF's top 0, so there's not exactly a massive risk there either is there?

 

I don't question Joshua and even Martin probably want the fight, but I still say a world title should be earned.

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Just heard about this fight, should be an interesting one. Like most people I've only seen Martin fight once and wasn't' impressed. If Joshua wins the title, he will end up gaining lots of new fans around the world.

 

I agree with the above poster that a world title should be earned, but due to the crazy-anything-goes state of the heavyweight division right now (and boxing in general), I'm not surprised this has happened.

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Anthony Joshua is the money man in the Heavyweight division - 450,000 PPV in his last fight, which was for the British title. Joshua generates money.

 

Charles Martins, PBC, handlers, are cashing in but if he wins they have a solid champion. The money is in the Uk, hence Martin traveling rather than fighting Eric Molina's at home like Wilder does.

 

People moan about boxers taking too long to fight at World Level. Joshua is fighting an American prospect now - what is the problem?

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The mandatory will come from the IBF's top 0, so there's not exactly a massive risk there either is there?

 

I don't question Joshua and even Martin probably want the fight, but I still say a world title should be earned.

I agree but it's been decades since that was the case. Let's not forget the case of Pete Rademacher.

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Joshua gets bitched out for fighting 'supposed' tomato cans and even when he takes a big step up to fight for a title, its not good enough because he needed to have earned it GTF right OH :mlol:

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Joshua gets bitched out for fighting 'supposed' tomato cans and even when he takes a big step up to fight for a title, its not good enough because he needed to have earned it GTF right OH :mlol:

Nuanced as ever. I'm sure you understand perfectly well, but I'll humour you:

 

Fighting guys little better than he'd find outside a pub on a Saturday night - great for the first two or three fights as a pro, then he's learning nothing.

 

Fighting a fellow novice for the British title with a grudge match angle included? Great, except neither really beat any of the other leading British heavies so bit unfair for the title. Time to defend a couple of times, get used to the level and earn a chance at a European belt.

 

Going from first live opponent to world-title chance? Ridiculous - should be a non-title fight because Martin shouldn't even have the title.

 

But hey, if he wins the world title, he must be a world-class fighter, so he better face world-class opponents every single fight. But no doubt you'll be back then to say "Joshua's only had 20 fights and is a world champion, now people think he should be fighting Klitschko and Wilder? GTFOH!!!?!!!ROFL!!!LOL!!!?!?!?!"

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Joshua gets bitched out for fighting 'supposed' tomato cans and even when he takes a big step up to fight for a title, its not good enough because he needed to have earned it GTF right OH :mlol:

 

I'll not bitch about this one, it's a good match up and makes too much sense for Hearn to turn down. There is no major threat in the IBF rankings and worries about mandatories are really stupid given how pathetic the Heavyweight division is at the moment.

 

Not really agreeing on "big step up", as we don't know how good either Whyte or Martin really are, but it's a good step up and a step in the right direction. Seems likely that the IBF title will become the "bastard" child of the titles with top fighters heading towards the WBC (Povetkin, Wilder) or WBA/WBO (Fury, Klitschko, Ortiz and probably Parker). The odd man out is likely to be Pulev, but Pulev Vs Joshua certainly wouldn't be a bad one.

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I agree but it's been decades since that was the case. Let's not forget the case of Pete Rademacher.

 

Several others that had less fights than Joshua and challenged for a Heavyweight title.

Michael Bennt (12 fights), James J Corbett (13 fights), James J Jeffries (14 fights), Leon Spinks (8 fights), Ossie Ocasio (14 fights), David Bey (15 fights).

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Agree with what you said about Martin being wise taking on Joshua now rather than later but still have massive respect for Martin for doing it at all. His first defence is trickier than Wilder's defences combined. I've also read elsewhere that it's too early for Joshua and this could be dangerous. Yeh, maybe it is but up until a week ago we were all reading that Joshua hadn't fought anyone of substance. Just goes to prove that you can't keep everyone happy so you're as well doing what suits you yourself. I hope everyone in the UK gets behind Josh and we could be in for some very exciting fights in the summer with potentially 3 separate British heavyweight world champions if Haye manages to get a fight with Wilder. How good would that be?

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Re: Anthony Joshua Fighting Charles Martin for the IBF World Heavyweight title

 

Nuanced as ever. I'm sure you understand perfectly well, but I'll humour you:

 

Fighting guys little better than he'd find outside a pub on a Saturday night - great for the first two or three fights as a pro, then he's learning nothing.

 

Fighting a fellow novice for the British title with a grudge match angle included? Great, except neither really beat any of the other leading British heavies so bit unfair for the title. Time to defend a couple of times, get used to the level and earn a chance at a European belt.

 

Going from first live opponent to world-title chance? Ridiculous - should be a non-title fight because Martin shouldn't even have the title.

 

But hey, if he wins the world title, he must be a world-class fighter, so he better face world-class opponents every single fight. But no doubt you'll be back then to say "Joshua's only had 20 fights and is a world champion, now people think he should be fighting Klitschko and Wilder? GTFOH!!!?!!!ROFL!!!LOL!!!?!?!?!"

Gav you always try to come across as being a smartass and just end up sounding a twat :laugh: the truth is he will never win as long as you have a hole in your arse!
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