WelshDevilRob Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Jack 'Kid' Berg http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40934000/jpg/_40934659_kidberg203.jpg Boxing Record: Fights: 192 Won: 157 Lost: 26 Drawn: 9 Ko's: 57 Judah Bergman, known as Jack Kid Berg or Jackie Kid Berg (June 28, 1909 – April 22, 1991), was an English boxer born in the East End of London. Judah Bergman was born in Romford Street near Cable Street, St George in the East, Stepney. He was apprenticed as a lather boy in a barber's shop, and began his boxing career at the Premierland, Back Church Lane, when he was 14. Jewish Berg boxed with a Star of David on his trunks. The book The Whitechapel Windmill covers the handsome boxer's rise in the boxing world as well as his flamboyant out-of-the-ring life, which is said to have included an affair with Mae West and to have borne a long-lasting friendship with fellow East Ender Jack Spot, the colourful (and also Jewish) gangster. Berg died in London on April 22, 1991. He is commemorated by a blue plaque on Noble Court, Cable Street, close to the place where he was born. Stepney Historical Trust presented the plaque at a ceremony attended by the Chief Rabbi, the Bishop of Stepney Richard Chartres, Professor Bill Fishman, Councillor Albert lilley and the Retired Boxers Federation. Later in the evening the Trust held a Charity Ball to raise funds for the Retired Boxers Federation attended by Mr Cox, Chairman of the Boxing Association and also the local Arbour Youth and Repton Boxing Clubs Boys. Over a £1000 was raised for the Retired Boxing charity. [edit] Career Between 1923 and 1936, Berg had 192 professional fights, winning 157 of them. His record was 157–26–9. Fifty seven wins were by knock out. In 1931 he moved to the USA, where he won 64 out of 76 fights there. He became British lightweight champion in 1934 by beating the holder Harry Mizler, and he lived to be the oldest British boxing champion. During his bouts in America, he was trained by legendary boxing trainer Ray Arcel. http://www.antekprizering.com/chocolateberg3887.jpeg In 1930, Berg defeated the great Cuban fighter Kid Chocolate in ten rounds. In 1930, he knocked out the American champion Mushy Callahan to take the Light Welterweight Championship in London. The National Boxing Association (NBA) had stripped Callahan before this fight and Britain did not recognize this division, so only the New York State Athletic Commission recognized Berg as champion after this fight. The NBA only recognized Berg as champion after he beat Goldie Hess in January 1931. Berg fought as a lightweight when he put his title on the line to meet with Tony Canzoneri in Chicago on 24 April 1931. He was quickly knocked out in three rounds, falling on his face and stumbling to get up before giving in and collapsing into the ropes. Berg, contending that he lost at lightweight and not at light welterweight, continued to claim that he was champion. Most of the boxing world recognized Canzoneri, however.[1] After the Canzoneri bout, Berg continued boxing with mixed results. His last notable win came in 1939 against the up-and-coming prospect Tippy Larkin. After retiring from boxing, he worked as a film stunt man, joined the Royal Air Force, and owned a restaurant in London. Source: wikipedia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshDevilRob Posted April 18, 2011 Author Share Posted April 18, 2011 Nominated by Smokin Jack 'Kid' Berg "With a record of 157 wins of which 57 were by stoppage - 26 defeats and 9 draws with wins over tony canzoneri and billy petrolle and kid chocolate x2 and at least five tittle defences in a year , my vote goes to JACK KID BERG" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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telboy66 Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 I would like to nominat Len Harvey to the hall of fame, Len was one of the finest boxers that fought right through the weights, just check his record & you cant do anything other than vote for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshDevilRob Posted April 18, 2011 Author Share Posted April 18, 2011 I would like to nominat Len Harvey to the hall of fame, Len was one of the finest boxers that fought right through the weights, just check his record & you cant do anything other than vote for him Nominations for older fighters currently closed. Will reopen once the votes are in for the current nominees. Nominations are open for fighters from the past 40 years, so please feel free to nominate someone in the topic, Tel. http://budweiserboxing.forumcircle.com/viewtopic.php?t=9638&start=15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telboy66 Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 But none of the previous nominations fall within that age band which is why I nominated Harvey, Surely a boxing hall of fame should cover boxers from every era Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshDevilRob Posted April 21, 2011 Author Share Posted April 21, 2011 But none of the previous nominations fall within that age band which is why I nominated Harvey, Surely a boxing hall of fame should cover boxers from every era I've added your nomination, Tel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshDevilRob Posted April 30, 2011 Author Share Posted April 30, 2011 Also currently in need of your votes: Lennox Lewis: http://www.ringnews24boxingforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=10259 Pernell Whitaker: http://www.ringnews24boxingforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=10257 Alexis Arguello: http://www.ringnews24boxingforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=9975 Stanley Ketchel: http://www.ringnews24boxingforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=9972 Jeff Fenech: http://www.ringnews24boxingforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=9712 Jack 'Kid' Berg: http://www.ringnews24boxingforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=9973 Pete Sanstol: http://www.ringnews24boxingforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=9974 Ezzard Charles: http://www.ringnews24boxingforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=9519 Sam Langford: http://www.ringnews24boxingforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=9520 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londoner Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Yes. He is in my top 5 British fighters of all time. His record is an impressive 157-26-9. He beat some very accomplished fighters including Kid Chocolate (x2), Tony Canzoneri and Billy Petrolle as well as other good fighters like Johnny Cuthbert, Billy Wallace, Tony Herrera, Tippy Larkin, Gustave Humery, Eric Boon, Harry Mizler, Jake Kilrain. Fans often know about the other "Kid", Ted Lewis, but not so much about Jack Berg. Berg is without doubt a British legend also though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallen Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 I knew Jack very well,and yes he is a Hall of Famer first fighter to beat Kid Chocolate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokin Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 come on people berg deserves the 90% needed in his first meeting with canzoneri the news papers reported that it was the worst defeat (punishment inflicted)of canzoneri's career to date and canzoneri had to be carried and helped back to his corner after the final bell .as said already he beat kid chocolate not once but twice he is englands greatest ever lightweight and light-welterweight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokin Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 berg has better wins at lightweight than buchanan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshDevilRob Posted May 12, 2011 Author Share Posted May 12, 2011 Votes needed. His record speaks for itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londoner Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 I can't believe he hasn't had more votes than he has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemurphy Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 I know some newer fans look at the low knockout pct and 26 losses but both figures are deceptive, if your going to have an appreciation for Benny Leonard and Willie Pep's skills, then you have to afford Berg the same courtesy. YES! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokin Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 90% he's in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokin Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 only 78% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yiddle Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 hell yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshDevilRob Posted June 10, 2011 Author Share Posted June 10, 2011 5 more Votes needed to decide Jack 'Kid' Bergs fate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yiddle Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 well if he don't make it it shows a lack of knowledge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 Berg's another borderline case but I am giving him the 'Yes' vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londoner Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Berg's another borderline case but I am giving him the 'Yes' vote. He is more than borderline in my opinion. He's a former great in his own right. He beat Tony Canzoneri, Billy Petrolle, Kid Chocolate, Tippy Larkin, Mushy Callahan, Harry Mizler, Eric Boon, Joe Glick. They were all top contenders of the time and in some cases former or future World champions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokin Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 he beat chocolate twice and although the win over canzoneri may of been a split decision it was regarded by many at ringside to be a clear win for berg and is recorded as the worst beating canzoneri had taken up to that point in his career, ray arcel even says that canzoneri's corner men carried him back to his corner after the final bell he was so fatigued Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slip Capone Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 from what i read i say yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokin Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 come on this is getting silly now berg clearly deserves to be in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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