WelshDevilRob Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Haye wants winner of Vitali vs Solis in May By Niall Hickman WORLD heavyweight champion David Haye will fight in May, possibly against the winner of the Vitali Klitschko-Odlanier Solis bout on March 19. Haye’s trainer and manager, Adam Booth, is convinced his man will box towards the end of May, but it will not be against Vitali Klitschko’s younger brother Wladimir, who takes on Britain’s Dereck Chisora instead on April 30. Booth said: “I just hope Vitali has a bigger set of man jewels than his brother, who should go into politics and work as a spin doctor. “The Wladimir Klitschko fight is dead in the water. He didn’t want it, simple as that, but David Haye’s career does not revolve around him. “Unlike all the 50-odd opponents who Wladimir has fought, David is not going to sit around waiting for him. “And for Chisora’s promoter, Frank Warren, to call me the hardest person to deal with in boxing, I take it as a compliment. “Vitali Klitschko’s fight with Solis for the WBC title is interesting because, if Vitali wins, David would love to take him on. “If Solis wins, it will be a rematch of their fight in the world amateur championships, where Solis won and David took the silver. That would be a great fight.” Haye could take on former world champion Ruslan Chagaev as his mandatory WBA title defence in May, but Germany-based Uzbekistani Chagaev may struggle to obtain a work visa in Britain having contracted hepatitis two years ago. Booth said: “Chagaev is a possibility and we shall see how we go. “The big issue would be whether or not he would pass a medical. David is looking at fighting again in the second part of May.” Source: http://www.express.co.uk/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheelchair Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Shut it Booth. You haven't helped Haye's cause either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brooklynbrawler Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 So you don't believe that Wlad can make a fight with you 9 weeks after facing Chisora, yet you believe that Vitali or Solis will be fine to do exactly that after facing perhaps their best opponent in many many years? Hypocrite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ko Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 So you don't believe that Wlad can make a fight with you 9 weeks after facing Chisora, yet you believe that Vitali or Solis will be fine to do exactly that after facing perhaps their best opponent in many many years? Hypocrite. Vitali and Solis vs David Haye fight would be in september. Wlad fight can happen but he practically signed to fight Adamek now, so will will take that fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brooklynbrawler Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 So you don't believe that Wlad can make a fight with you 9 weeks after facing Chisora, yet you believe that Vitali or Solis will be fine to do exactly that after facing perhaps their best opponent in many many years? Hypocrite. Vitali and Solis vs David Haye fight would be in september. Wlad fight can happen but he practically signed to fight Adamek now, so will will take that fight. Read Booth's comments. He said the Wlad fight is dead in the water because he doesn't believe he can make the fight in July, 9 weeks after facing Chisora. Now here he is, asking whether Vitali has the "man-jewels" to pick up a fight with Haye, 9 weeks after he faces Solis... In one breath he says it's impossible for Wlad to take a fight 9 weeks after facing a relative novice, yet in the other breath he's saying Vitali would be ducking him for not signing the fight 9 weeks after facing Solis, a FAR superior opponent... Booth is a total cock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamasadlittleboy Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 See he really is a compulsive liar! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slip Capone Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 If the Wlad fight is out why wait till May to fight again? Not like his last fight (if you can call it that) was a struggle. Haye's heavyweight career can be discribed in one word. Inactive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamasadlittleboy Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 If the Wlad fight is out why wait till May to fight again? Not like his last fight (if you can call it that) was a struggle. Haye's heavyweight career can be discribed in one word. Inactive I'd use another word but I have to seem responsible being a moderator....anyway it starts with an "s" and rhymes with "hit" ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slip Capone Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 If the Wlad fight is out why wait till May to fight again? Not like his last fight (if you can call it that) was a struggle. Haye's heavyweight career can be discribed in one word. Inactive I'd use another word but I have to seem responsible being a moderator....anyway it starts with an "s" and rhymes with "hit" ;-) LOL. Yeah I hear you. If you wanna stick to 4 letter words theres bust. Flop. Joke. Crap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ko Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 So you don't believe that Wlad can make a fight with you 9 weeks after facing Chisora, yet you believe that Vitali or Solis will be fine to do exactly that after facing perhaps their best opponent in many many years? Hypocrite. Vitali and Solis vs David Haye fight would be in september. Wlad fight can happen but he practically signed to fight Adamek now, so will will take that fight. Read Booth's comments. He said the Wlad fight is dead in the water because he doesn't believe he can make the fight in July, 9 weeks after facing Chisora. Now here he is, asking whether Vitali has the "man-jewels" to pick up a fight with Haye, 9 weeks after he faces Solis... In one breath he says it's impossible for Wlad to take a fight 9 weeks after facing a relative novice, yet in the other breath he's saying Vitali would be ducking him for not signing the fight 9 weeks after facing Solis, a FAR superior opponent... Booth is a total cock. Yer dead in the water as the next fight, if Wlad signs with Adamek (which is very likely) then fight is dead. Haye vs Vitali wont be in july it will be in September. Haye fights and wins in May and then Vitali fights and wins in late March, then they fight in September. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londoner Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Haye and Booth are utter oafs. They're clumsy, incompetent, incoherent.... Either THAT and the fact they don't know what they're saying OR they are LIARS. It's one or the other. They are relying on the public to be duped into believing what they say and hope people really think two long reigning champions have dodged a bout with him. Vitali's next opponent is a guy who beat Haye in the amateurs and Wlad's next two opponents are the best boxer in Britain (aside from haye) right now (albeit a bit early for him) and then the boxer who cleaned up at cruiserweight after Haye left and who even went 12 rounds with the hard hitting Chris Arreola. Hey, we can slag Arreola off as much as we want for being a slob but would Haye have fought a guy who packs a punch like Arreola? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londoner Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 I guess my main "issue" with Haye fans (although i don't really have an issue with his fans, it's just Haye, his big gob and Adam Booth i have an issue with) is that it seems many of them think David Haye is the "saviour of the heavyweight division". Like he's the new Lennox Lewis or Mike Tyson. These people need to get real and understand we won't see another Lewis or Tyson for a LONG time. As long as the HW division gets more competitive once the top 3 around today retire, it will be better IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brooklynbrawler Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 I guess my main "issue" with Haye fans (although i don't really have an issue with his fans, it's just Haye, his big gob and Adam Booth i have an issue with) is that it seems many of them think David Haye is the "saviour of the heavyweight division". Like he's the new Lennox Lewis or Mike Tyson. These people need to get real and understand we won't see another Lewis or Tyson for a LONG time. As long as the HW division gets more competitive once the top 3 around today retire, it will be better IMO. Every breath Haye takes comes straight from his ass, and there's nothing fresh about it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemurphy Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 If the Wlad fight is out why wait till May to fight again? Not like his last fight (if you can call it that) was a struggle. Haye's heavyweight career can be discribed in one word. Inactive Agreed, Slip. It isn't just that he's not fighting a Klitshcko, but that he also seems to be a reluctant warrior beyond that. Not all the problems are his fault, I will give him that (Chagaev's medical history for example) but he seems to want to be a Champ without being a Fighter, and the very definition of a Champion IS being a fighter. He seems happier in the Actors role of playing a Champ to me. I'd LOVE to see him prove me wrong though.....but waiting to see that is getting tiresome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshDevilRob Posted January 15, 2011 Author Share Posted January 15, 2011 If the Wlad fight is out why wait till May to fight again? Not like his last fight (if you can call it that) was a struggle. Haye's heavyweight career can be discribed in one word. Inactive Agreed, Slip. It isn't just that he's not fighting a Klitshcko, but that he also seems to be a reluctant warrior beyond that. Not all the problems are his fault, I will give him that (Chagaev's medical history for example) but he seems to want to be a Champ without being a Fighter, and the very definition of a Champion IS being a fighter. He seems happier in the Actors role of playing a Champ to me. I'd LOVE to see him prove me wrong though.....but waiting to see that is getting tiresome. Dave, tbf he has had 3 fights in a year and one week. (Valuev in Germany, a mandatory and then the Harrison farce). There was a long gap between Ruiz and Harrison and I was peed off that he was fighting Harrison. Haye has a belt and posters in general see him as the weak link but apart from Kevin Johnson, James Toney and Bhop not many fighters are calling him out. Boytsov, Povetkin etc should be falling over themselves to get this fight but I don't think I've heard either fighter mention him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ko Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 If the Wlad fight is out why wait till May to fight again? Not like his last fight (if you can call it that) was a struggle. Haye's heavyweight career can be discribed in one word. Inactive Agreed, Slip. It isn't just that he's not fighting a Klitshcko, but that he also seems to be a reluctant warrior beyond that. Not all the problems are his fault, I will give him that (Chagaev's medical history for example) but he seems to want to be a Champ without being a Fighter, and the very definition of a Champion IS being a fighter. He seems happier in the Actors role of playing a Champ to me. I'd LOVE to see him prove me wrong though.....but waiting to see that is getting tiresome. Dave, tbf he has had 3 fights in a year and one week. (Valuev in Germany, a mandatory and then the Harrison farce). There was a long gap between Ruiz and Harrison and I was peed off that he was fighting Harrison. Haye has a belt and posters in general see him as the weak link but apart from Kevin Johnson, James Toney and Bhop not many fighters are calling him out. Boytsov, Povetkin etc should be falling over themselves to get this fight but I don't think I've heard either fighter mention him. No one wants Haye only K bros. Kathy Duva of main events said they would be interested in Haye vs Adamek in Newark the 12k seats can be upgraded to 20k, she cant get hold of Adam Booth and HBO would buy that aswell Adamek WBA No10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapevine241 Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 booth and haye are amateurs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brooklynbrawler Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 If the Wlad fight is out why wait till May to fight again? Not like his last fight (if you can call it that) was a struggle. Haye's heavyweight career can be discribed in one word. Inactive Agreed, Slip. It isn't just that he's not fighting a Klitshcko, but that he also seems to be a reluctant warrior beyond that. Not all the problems are his fault, I will give him that (Chagaev's medical history for example) but he seems to want to be a Champ without being a Fighter, and the very definition of a Champion IS being a fighter. He seems happier in the Actors role of playing a Champ to me. I'd LOVE to see him prove me wrong though.....but waiting to see that is getting tiresome. Dave, tbf he has had 3 fights in a year and one week. (Valuev in Germany, a mandatory and then the Harrison farce). There was a long gap between Ruiz and Harrison and I was peed off that he was fighting Harrison. Haye has a belt and posters in general see him as the weak link but apart from Kevin Johnson, James Toney and Bhop not many fighters are calling him out. Boytsov, Povetkin etc should be falling over themselves to get this fight but I don't think I've heard either fighter mention him. That depends on how subjective you are about tallying up his fights, because he has also only had 3 fights inside 2 years and 2 months, and if you take it up to the eve of his next fight, it's likely to be well beyond 2 and a half years for 3 fights to have taken place inside the timeframe. Being fair, he IS too inactive, and he DOES count himself out of any decent challenge. Harrison called out Haye. And he fought him. Is this the basis a champion makes fights on though? One guy saying he wouldn't mind fighting you? As a "champion," and a very vocal one at that, he should at least be making some progress towards backing up his own words, and he has a duty to make sure that his challengers at least deserve to share a ring with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamasadlittleboy Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 If the Wlad fight is out why wait till May to fight again? Not like his last fight (if you can call it that) was a struggle. Haye's heavyweight career can be discribed in one word. Inactive Agreed, Slip. It isn't just that he's not fighting a Klitshcko, but that he also seems to be a reluctant warrior beyond that. Not all the problems are his fault, I will give him that (Chagaev's medical history for example) but he seems to want to be a Champ without being a Fighter, and the very definition of a Champion IS being a fighter. He seems happier in the Actors role of playing a Champ to me. I'd LOVE to see him prove me wrong though.....but waiting to see that is getting tiresome. Dave, tbf he has had 3 fights in a year and one week. (Valuev in Germany, a mandatory and then the Harrison farce). There was a long gap between Ruiz and Harrison and I was peed off that he was fighting Harrison. Haye has a belt and posters in general see him as the weak link but apart from Kevin Johnson, James Toney and Bhop not many fighters are calling him out. Boytsov, Povetkin etc should be falling over themselves to get this fight but I don't think I've heard either fighter mention him. Whilst thats true Rob it's easy to go either way with it. Haye has had 4 fights in 2 years and 2 months, including bouts with Barrett and Audley. It'll be July I'm assuming before he's out again, meaning 5 fights in over 2 1/2 years, and 2 fights in over a year. Not many fighters are calling him out because other fighters see him as a paper champion who over-rates himself, thats why Audley got the fight, Audley was willing to take the small piece of the pie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshDevilRob Posted January 15, 2011 Author Share Posted January 15, 2011 Ok, its true what you guys are saying regarding over a longer term but if you go but more recent activity then 3 fights in just over a year ain't bad going for a Heavyweight. I do think these Heavies should be trying to make the fight even Solis has never really targeted him. He is the champion whether paper or not, he holds a belt and is a big money fight for most Heavyweights out there. I almost get the feeling that alot of fighters are sitting around waiting for the Klitschkos to retire and then they can pick and chose which vacant belt they go for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brooklynbrawler Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Ok, its true what you guys are saying regarding over a longer term but if you go but more recent activity then 3 fights in just over a year ain't bad going for a Heavyweight. I do think these Heavies should be trying to make the fight even Solis has never really targeted him. He is the champion whether paper or not, he holds a belt and is a big money fight for most Heavyweights out there. I almost get the feeling that alot of fighters are sitting around waiting for the Klitschkos to retire and then they can pick and chose which vacant belt they go for. To put it into perspective, Adamek has had 8 fights in less time than Haye's had 4. Solis just dismisses and discredits Haye in every interview, which would normally be means enough to hype up a fight, but in order to do that, you need a bit of back and forth between both fighters. Haye is the one who hasn't bothered to mention anyone other than the Klitschko's or his latest whipping boy. One fighter calling another out doesn't work if the other guy ignores it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshDevilRob Posted January 15, 2011 Author Share Posted January 15, 2011 Ok, its true what you guys are saying regarding over a longer term but if you go but more recent activity then 3 fights in just over a year ain't bad going for a Heavyweight. I do think these Heavies should be trying to make the fight even Solis has never really targeted him. He is the champion whether paper or not, he holds a belt and is a big money fight for most Heavyweights out there. I almost get the feeling that alot of fighters are sitting around waiting for the Klitschkos to retire and then they can pick and chose which vacant belt they go for. To put it into perspective, Adamek has had 8 fights in less time than Haye's had 4. Solis just dismisses and discredits Haye in every interview, which would normally be means enough to hype up a fight, but in order to do that, you need a bit of back and forth between both fighters. Haye is the one who hasn't bothered to mention anyone other than the Klitschko's or his latest whipping boy. One fighter calling another out doesn't work if the other guy ignores it. Solis in a recent interview, which I post here said something like he'd already beaten Haye once so didn't need to again - which is a strange answer. I get the Adamek comparison, he is doing what I always said on Banter that I wanted Haye to do i.e copy the Holyfield blueprint of fighting 4/5 times before a titleshot inorder to get fully used to being in the division. On the flipside you could say Haye has shown more ambition and confidence in himself by jumping into a Heavyweight title fight after one fight. (Barrett, can count Bonin aswell though Haye moved backdown after that fight) Adamek, I'd have thought would be chasing for a shot at Haye cos thats a fight many believe he can win. Credit to him for going for Wladimir which seems to have been the plan given the height of his last couple of opponents. Anyway, its not the champions job to go calling out contenders, its always been the other way round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brooklynbrawler Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Ok, its true what you guys are saying regarding over a longer term but if you go but more recent activity then 3 fights in just over a year ain't bad going for a Heavyweight. I do think these Heavies should be trying to make the fight even Solis has never really targeted him. He is the champion whether paper or not, he holds a belt and is a big money fight for most Heavyweights out there. I almost get the feeling that alot of fighters are sitting around waiting for the Klitschkos to retire and then they can pick and chose which vacant belt they go for. To put it into perspective, Adamek has had 8 fights in less time than Haye's had 4. Solis just dismisses and discredits Haye in every interview, which would normally be means enough to hype up a fight, but in order to do that, you need a bit of back and forth between both fighters. Haye is the one who hasn't bothered to mention anyone other than the Klitschko's or his latest whipping boy. One fighter calling another out doesn't work if the other guy ignores it. Solis in a recent interview, which I post here said something like he'd already beaten Haye once so didn't need to again - which is a strange answer. I get the Adamek comparison, he is doing what I always said on Banter that I wanted Haye to do i.e copy the Holyfield blueprint of fighting 4/5 times before a titleshot inorder to get fully used to being in the division. On the flipside you could say Haye has shown more ambition and confidence in himself by jumping into a Heavyweight title fight after one fight. (Barrett, can count Bonin aswell though Haye moved backdown after that fight) Adamek, I'd have thought would be chasing for a shot at Haye cos thats a fight many believe he can win. Credit to him for going for Wladimir which seems to have been the plan given the height of his last couple of opponents. Anyway, its not the champions job to go calling out contenders, its always been the other way round. I believe Solis said something along the lines of "Haye is only a pretender, and if we ever fought again I'd just beat him again..." He's called out the Klits AND Haye on countless occasions, but has had to wait his turn. It's not ambition that landed Haye his title shot, it was boxing politics, and the title should never even have been up for grabs in the first place. Other than a finding fortune to get a title shot against a guy who had already lost it, he's done nothing to suggest he has ANY ambition at heavyweight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavpowell Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Solis opted to wait his turn - as I recall he was another one of the multitude offered the Gelsenkirchen fight when Haye dropped out, and he turned it down, as did Povetkin and assorted others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshDevilRob Posted January 16, 2011 Author Share Posted January 16, 2011 According to Klitschkos handlers Haye is negotiating with Alexander Povetkin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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