iamasadlittleboy Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Ring magazine list him as having a 27-9-2 (21) record Boxrec says 28-3-2 (22) And Dan Rafael/ESPN say 27-8-2 WHICH IS IT? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapevine241 Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 id like to know as well. 5/6 losses is a pretty big difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAZZ-MCFC Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Boxrec are usually bang on for their stats and records Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamasadlittleboy Posted January 14, 2011 Author Share Posted January 14, 2011 Boxrec are usually bang on for their stats and records This is the problem. They aren't. Fight Fax are apparently the one that US prom,oters need to send the results to... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAZZ-MCFC Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Boxrec are usually bang on for their stats and records This is the problem. They aren't. Fight Fax are apparently the one that US prom,oters need to send the results to... you haven't mentioned any fightfax stats though so how do you know Boxrec stats aren't bang on?? obviously there are likely to be errors here and there but a fighter like Miguel Acosta, i can't imagine them getting that wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamasadlittleboy Posted January 14, 2011 Author Share Posted January 14, 2011 Boxrec are usually bang on for their stats and records This is the problem. They aren't. Fight Fax are apparently the one that US prom,oters need to send the results to... you haven't mentioned any fightfax stats though so how do you know Boxrec stats aren't bang on?? obviously there are likely to be errors here and there but a fighter like Miguel Acosta, i can't imagine them getting that wrong espn take fightfax, dan humps them, and hates boxrec Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAZZ-MCFC Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Boxrec are usually bang on for their stats and records This is the problem. They aren't. Fight Fax are apparently the one that US prom,oters need to send the results to... you haven't mentioned any fightfax stats though so how do you know Boxrec stats aren't bang on?? obviously there are likely to be errors here and there but a fighter like Miguel Acosta, i can't imagine them getting that wrong espn take fightfax, dan humps them, and hates boxrec hmm didn't know that not sure then but personally i'd still go with Boxrec unless it was openly proven otherwise that's just me though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamasadlittleboy Posted January 14, 2011 Author Share Posted January 14, 2011 fightfax needs to be paid for and stuff, needs the abc to send results etc since some legal thing in 1994 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapevine241 Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 boxrec is the wikipedia of boxing records Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamasadlittleboy Posted January 15, 2011 Author Share Posted January 15, 2011 boxrec is the wikipedia of boxing records Editted by volunteers? ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAZZ-MCFC Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 boxrec is the wikipedia of boxing records Editted by volunteers? ... he's probably saying it's riddled with shite and errors haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapevine241 Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 ^^ yup lol. its a great resource but according to experts there are a lot of mistakes. like wikipedia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAZZ-MCFC Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 ^^ yup lol. its a great resource but according to experts there are a lot of mistakes. like wikipedia. all about Wikileaks mlol/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamasadlittleboy Posted January 20, 2011 Author Share Posted January 20, 2011 Right all this comes straight from a boxrec user called "Blue" On why Fightfax/ESPN/Ring list more losses "The five guys listed in Miguel Acosta's record in the 2010 Fight Tax Record Book on p. 33. really belong to another Miguel Acosta who is at least 4 divisions lower and 20 lbs lighter. He is not even listed in any Fight Tax record books." (http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=121221&cat=boxer this guy) More from Blue " For an example on how to lose credibility and confuse people; the FightTax guy marked Acosta's won-lost-draw as 26-9-2, but only one of the two losses to Gilberto Gonzalez (Exactly a year apart) happened. (The 10-26-03 loss is-not-listed-in-Gonzalez-final-record in the 2006 Record Book p. 205.) Yet in the back of the same 2010 record book in the 'World Title Fights 2009 section on p.409, Miguel's record is listed as 25-3-2 for his defense against Urbano Antillon. Coup de grâce: Both Miguel Acostas apeared on the same show on Saturday 6 July 2002 at Hilton Gran Salon, Caracas, Venezuela http://boxrec.com/show_display.php?show_id=214249 Reported by: Meridiano on line-Caracas,Venezuela, 9 de Julio del 2002 (Television Network) JUAN CERMEÑO; EL UNIVERSAL Caracas, lunes 08 de julio, 2002 (Newspaper)" We have our explanation. The most famous mistakes on Boxrec are that of Gainer and MAyorga, also explained by Blue "The Mayorga bout error in question was Feb- 27 147 Porfirio Miranda San Jose, CR. KO 1; referenced from The FightTax Record Book 2001-p. 492 when BoxRec was new. This fight was removed by FightTax in RB 2002-p. 314. The only Gainer difference in question was his opponent’s name in his debut on Jul- 14 110 Andrez Francisco Pensacola, FL. KO 1 (t) It was taken from FightTax 1998 Record Book p. 350 and earlier RB’s The name was changed to Francisco Pascual by FightTax in the 1999 RB -p. 345, So BOTH Rafael mentioned errors come from the ABC “Official Registry”." Heh Fightfax/Fighttax/Joke site http://www.fightfax.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapevine241 Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 interesting stuff. thanks for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slip Capone Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 He was announced as 25-3-2 for the Urbano Antillon fight. So I'm guessing the 28-3-2 is the correct one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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