Manny Pacquiao Isn’t Scared of Juan Manuel Marquez… is He?

[edsel77x]

by: Brandon Taylor

 

Manny Pacquiao has decided that an aging Shane Mosley is the best opponent for him. This proves that Pacquiao is reluctant, or dare I say, scared, to fight Juan Manuel Marquez. Why? Is the pound for pound champ really scared of someone whose nose he has already broken?

 

 

 

The recent announcement that Manny Pacquiao will fight Shane Mosley next has ruined all the momentum that boxing has garnered over the last 2 months. To the most mainstream fans, boxing won’t matter to them unless Pacquiao and Mayweather meet. However, the true boxing fans know that Juan Manuel Marquez has earned a third fight with Pacquiao as well.

 

Mosley gets the fight with Pacquiao next because everyone knows who he is. Mosley is the closest to a household name of any of Pacquiao’s choices for opponents. The problem is, this isn’t the Shane Mosley who was unbeatable at lightweight and overwhelmed Oscar De La Hoya in their 1st fight. This isn’t even the guy Margarito lost two to years ago. There is no more Sugar. Mosley has reached his expiration date. Bob Arum will get severe criticism for this, but what about Manny Pacquiao? There may be a dent forming in Manny’s recently perfect armor.

 

Pacquiao should have made Bob Arum see that even though Mosley has the name, Marquez will get more PPV buys because it's more of a challenge. Pacquiao didn’t do that because he knows that he doesn’t want to fight Marquez. Bob Arum would never seriously consider giving Marquez a chance because of what happened in the first two fights between Marquez and Pacquiao. I thought that even though Pacquiao didn’t want the fight, he would still accept the challenge, but I was wrong.

 

Manny Pacquiao has avoided giving Juan Manuel Marquez a third fight because he knows that Marquez has given him more problems than anyone else, and he doesn’t want to deal with those problems again. Pacquiao wants safe fights where he can make money and not feel that he is in any real danger to lose.

 

Manny Pacquiao’s popularity should slightly take a hit among hardcore fans. The worst part about all of this is that Pacquiao could easily beat Marquez at any weight between 140 and 147, but we won’t know because Pacquiao probably plans to never fight Marquez again.

 

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[edsel77x]

I love JMM, absolutely love him! But, does he really stand a chance?

Not at any weight!

I think the III should have happened not too much after the II.

[WelshDevilRob]

I think Manny wins and wins well if they met for a 3rd time. JMM just not as affective at the higher weight.

[edsel77x]

I think Manny wins and wins well if they met for a 3rd time. JMM just not as affective at the higher weight.

 

Floyd clearly proved that.

[grapevine241]

not scared, but reluctant

[gavpowell]

I love JMM, absolutely love him! But, does he really stand a chance?

Not at any weight!

 

Oh yeah? Based on what? Only the last time Pacquiao fought an opponent who had a counterpunching boxing style was..oh, my my, it was Marquez!

 

I've always been almost as cynical as Pacquiao, Roach and Arum about how Pacquiao has been moved, but whenb he's taking on Margarito and then Mosley you'd think the criticism would be pretty universal. Still, cults are like that, I suppose.

 

I don't get how Floyd beating the living daylights out of Marquez proves Marquez can't fight at welter at all - everything Marquez uses to his strength is something Floyd has always done better.

 

Besides, Pacquiao loves one-sided fights with opponents who aren;t comfortable at the weight. Marquez should be ideal. No, you're right, best follow up on the glove-tamperer with the aged drug cheat. What a legacy.

[brooklynbrawler]

I don't think anyone could be accused of being "scared" of facing a guy they already fought twice...

 

I think another win, of any sorts, offers Pacquiao little addition to his legacy, yet a win over a well-known fighter and future hall of famer, Shane Mosley, looks good on paper, regardless of how well he has looked recently.

The fact is, Berto too, has also achieved little to nothing and holds no major wins.

There's no doubt he would be a better adversary and probably trouble him a little more than Shane would, but noone would be surprised to see him steamroller all 3 guys, and Shane is just the best of a shallow pool of potential opponents left for him to face.

The eventual 140 lbs champion who comes out on top, is almost a shoe-in to face him after Mosley, provided he wins, and Shane is just another notch in his welterweight belt as far as I'm concerned.

[gavpowell]

The only way Mosley looks good on paper is if you've not read his recent record. Who exactly is going to be fooled? non-boxing fans won't have a clue who Mosley is, boxing fans know exactly who he is, so what's the point? Maybe Pacquiao could bring DLH out of retirement and beat him again? That would be an even better name than mosley!

 

And why welterweight anyway? Manny is so amazing he just won a title at light-middleweight, so let's see him fight there again. Or I guess we could just keep excusing fighters in the vain hope they eventually fight a live opponent again.

[edsel77x]

I love JMM, absolutely love him! But, does he really stand a chance?

Not at any weight!

 

Oh yeah? Based on what? Only the last time Pacquiao fought an opponent who had a counterpunching boxing style was..oh, my my, it was Marquez!

 

I've always been almost as cynical as Pacquiao, Roach and Arum about how Pacquiao has been moved, but whenb he's taking on Margarito and then Mosley you'd think the criticism would be pretty universal. Still, cults are like that, I suppose.

 

I don't get how Floyd beating the living daylights out of Marquez proves Marquez can't fight at welter at all - everything Marquez uses to his strength is something Floyd has always done better.

 

Besides, Pacquiao loves one-sided fights with opponents who aren;t comfortable at the weight. Marquez should be ideal. No, you're right, best follow up on the glove-tamperer with the aged drug cheat. What a legacy.

 

I dont think manny is great because of de la hoya, diaz, or even some other catchweights

every fight, just about, up until his last fight with JMM, he gets well deserved credit, I'll give him the fight with Hatton, and Cotto. I DO NOT want to see the MOsley fight

Yes Mayweather is a better counter puncher, faster, and bigger.

Some guys can come up and some guys can't.

JMM is happens to be one who can't... come all the way up past 140 and be succesful.

[londoner]

I don't think Pacquiao would be scared of an oncoming train. I do think Arum is "scared" of earning less than he can with in house fights and is unhappy with negotiating with anyone else.

[davemurphy]

I don't think it's being scared of Marquez, if that was the case then we'd have never seen them together in the first place and certainly not for the Rematch. I think if Pac is scared of anything, it's that the psychological advantage would be with JMM, as it's hard to get up for a guy who've you've (in your mind at least) beaten twice already. For me, Pacquiao has NEVER shown he could beat JMM, I didn't give him the edge either time, but once again this is viewing through Pacquaio's eyes and not mine. Like Ryan mentions above, if anyone is scared of anything, it's Arum for his mealticket.

[gavpowell]

JMM is happens to be one who can't... come all the way up past 140 and be succesful.

 

But we don't know that - he's only faced one bloke and that was a guy who was likely to do that to him at any point in his career. It's like Robinson going up and fighting LaMotta for the first time - he got beaten up because he couldn't keep the much-larger LaMotta off him. He went on to do pretty well in the division.

[McBride]

Fact is the last two times they fought Pakow weighed 142 - 145 by fight time. Marquez weighed around 138. Pakow now only weighs 148 by fight time, and Marquez could be 145 - 146. Mayweather might well have outclassed JMM, but thats because he is by far and away a superior technician than him. Pakow hasn't yet proved that he is.

[grapevine241]

i got back and forth on the weight... its just hard to forget that image of the bloated marquez that fought floyd. lets not forget, marquez is small for 135

[donlevy]

I think he's content with making as much money as possible without having to face an opponent who he thinks has a chance of posing a serious threat.As selfish and greedy as Arum is,it's Pacquiao who has the final say on his opponent.

 

 

Nobody could convince me that Mosley is a bigger and better match on paper than a third and final fight with Marquez on Cinco De Mayo.If Pacquiao is so capable of destroying Marquez at this point,then do it - nobody else has.

[WelshDevilRob]

I think he's content with making as much money as possible without having to face an opponent who he thinks has a chance of posing a serious threat.As selfish and greedy as Arum is,it's Pacquiao who has the final say on his opponent.

 

 

Nobody could convince me that Mosley is a bigger and better match on paper than a third and final fight with Marquez on Cinco De Mayo.If Pacquiao is so capable of destroying Marquez at this point,then do it - nobody else has.

 

I agree with you there, Don. I also think Manny found the Margarito fight physically tough and is kind of wanting an easier night next time out.

 

I still don't think Mosley should be getting the shot and have for years complained about boxing and promoters/TV stations recycling the old names rather than giving the younger often better fighters the chance.

[edsel77x]

JMM is happens to be one who can't... come all the way up past 140 and be succesful.

 

But we don't know that - he's only faced one bloke and that was a guy who was likely to do that to him at any point in his career. It's like Robinson going up and fighting LaMotta for the first time - he got beaten up because he couldn't keep the much-larger LaMotta off him. He went on to do pretty well in the division.

 

You are absolutely right. And I can't in no way validate what I am saying.

Just an emotional novice boxing fan.

I would rather see JMM instead of Mosley.

but if Mosley is going to fight then, I hope he brings his A game.

I like Manny but I always favor upsets as they are more exciting. Mosley vs Margarito was great, Given Cotto beat Mosley and I thought he would suffer the same fate. Anyway...

[gavpowell]

To be honest, if Mosley brings his A game it's likely to be because he's on something. Again.

[edsel77x]

To be honest, if Mosley brings his A game it's likely to be because he's on something. Again.

 

I heard of the Blaco scandal but I honestly didnt know he was a reputed PE user.

Well, fuk, the very reason I dont watch baseball anymore, Football has let me down with there handling of Brian Cushing.

I don't want to start thinking that PE use is prevalent in Boxing despite what I thought were isolated incidents that "I" have heard of.

What a major let down if that be the case!

Hand wraps, loaded gloves all the same to me.

Well, I dislike Mosley now...

gav..., who else is getting fuked up that I don't know about?

[gavpowell]

That depends whether you know about Jimbob Toney, Fernando Vargas, Roy Jones Jr and Evander Holyfield. If you do, your guess is as good as mine. It won't be as goood as Dallen's though.

[Donkeywater]

Easy,

 

As far as i'm concerned, Marquez is 2-0 against Pacquiao.

 

I'm not gonna go as far as to say that Manny is scared of Marquez... but he definitely ain't in a rush to face him for a third time and of the two, Marquez definitely wants it more. He's been calling Manny out left and right for years.

 

Personally, I think the Paquiao camp is content to sit on the result of that highly controversial second fight. That way, the history books show that Paquiao was the superior fighter. However, many who witnessed those two rucks will disagree.

 

With regards to a third fight, the most recent quotes I read from Freddie Roach suggested that Manny will not come down in weight and will only consider fighting at 147. If thats the case, I think Marquez is definitely out of his manor. I say this not because he was schooled by Mayweather in his only outing at Welterweight but because he is not even a particularly big at Lightweight.

 

Still, whichever weight they choose to rumble, on recent form (and past history), Marquez is definitely more deserving of a crack at the Pacman than Sugar Shane.