iamasadlittleboy Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 He hit me! Honestly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamasadlittleboy Posted January 14, 2014 Author Share Posted January 14, 2014 Re: This was SO not a dive! And another! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ko Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Re: This was SO not a dive! Punch didnt even land! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cableaddict Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Re: This was SO not a dive! In the Pantellic fight, I think that's just a bad camera angle. If you freeze it just at "the moment of impact" it looks to me (clearly) like the glove came up & connected with the chin. Dives happen all the time, but not this time. The title of this thread is, ironically, correct. ------------------- Edwards-Capes, on the other hand ...... They should have sold popcorn and raisinettes in the lobby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mofo2 Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Re: This was SO not a dive! WTF both were extremely poor attempts at diving :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemurphy Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Re: This was SO not a dive! I always thought Willie Pep's against Lulu Perez looked pretty convincing, even though nobody bought into it and Willie was suspended. Punch is at the 1:36 mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonRingRules Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Re: This was SO not a dive! I always thought Willie Pep's against Lulu Perez looked pretty convincing, even though nobody bought into it and Willie was suspended. Punch is at the 1:36 mark. --- Reading up on the fight and the conditions were similar to Wlad/Brewster I. Big money mysteriously flooding the bookies causing some of them to suspend bets in the final leadup. Also looks like Pep is sleepwalking and it took some punches to wake him up, but those were serious punches, esp for the 3rd knockdown. I'd bet anything he was drugged because he never looked like Pep from the git go. Also he had logged some 50+ rounds in the 3 months before this fight and was 34 yrs with 190 bouts under his belt, most every one going the distance. This is post airplane crash, post 5 brutal fights with Saddler. Something got to him, but I doubt he threw the fight, he just wasn't there that night when the bell rang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear Hugger Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Re: This was SO not a dive! WTF both were extremely poor attempts at diving :laugh: Agreed. It was worse than the WWE...:shocked: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemurphy Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Re: This was SO not a dive! --- Reading up on the fight and the conditions were similar to Wlad/Brewster I. Big money mysteriously flooding the bookies causing some of them to suspend bets in the final leadup. Also looks like Pep is sleepwalking and it took some punches to wake him up, but those were serious punches, esp for the 3rd knockdown. I'd bet anything he was drugged because he never looked like Pep from the git go. Also he had logged some 50+ rounds in the 3 months before this fight and was 34 yrs with 190 bouts under his belt, most every one going the distance. This is post airplane crash, post 5 brutal fights with Saddler. Something got to him, but I doubt he threw the fight, he just wasn't there that night when the bell rang. LRR- He was warned ahead of time by the Commission (because the odds had changed so dramatically when all kinds of money started flooding in on Perez) that consequences of a dive would be extreme. I think that made it a case where no matter how Willie was knocked out, the simple fact that he WAS knocked out was going to bring a suspension. I think you might be on to something and maybe he got something in his water bottle, that type of thing was more prevalent back in the day. From the opening bell he didn't seem right, and considering the warning he'd been given, the pressure was on to "make it look good". If it was a fix, and they knew the commission was on to them, then they'd have had Willie box circles around Perez for several rounds before the KO shot, and that wasn't the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mofo2 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Re: This was SO not a dive! Agreed. It was worse than the WWE...:shocked: Well I wouldnt go that far but they were bad for sure :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieC Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Re: This was SO not a dive! Any of Ali Raymi's fights would fit in here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamasadlittleboy Posted January 29, 2014 Author Share Posted January 29, 2014 Re: This was SO not a dive! Any of Ali Raymi's fights would fit in here Lies, lies and slander! Raymi is a beast who breaks mens wills with sheer masculinity! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshDevilRob Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Re: This was SO not a dive! Those two videos are absolutely shocking. Neither got hit but was knocked-out lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoztheMadman Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Re: This was SO not a dive! I always thought Willie Pep's against Lulu Perez looked pretty convincing, even though nobody bought into it and Willie was suspended. Punch is at the 1:36 mark. Poor Willie. :tsk: That couldn't have been one of many times he got koed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermid bex Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Re: This was SO not a dive! He hit me! Honestly! he did a pretty convincing dive tho lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemurphy Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Re: This was SO not a dive! Poor Willie. :tsk: That couldn't have been one of many times he got koed. Yeah, he was stopped four times before that, three of them by Sandy Saddler, and never as early as the 2nd round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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