Zab Judah Returns

[WelshDevilRob]

Zab Judah Returns

 

Main Events and Super Judah Promotions are pleased to officially announce the upcoming fight between Zab “Super” Judah, Brooklyn, NY (38-6, 26 KO’s) and Jose Armando Santa Cruz, Michoacán, Mexico (28-4, 17 KO’s).

 

The fight will take place on July 16th at Prudential Center, Newark, NJ. It will be broadcast live on ESPN2. Ticket and on sale info will be released shortly.

 

Source: http://www.ringnews24.com/index.php/site-map/boxing-news/537-main-events-zab-judah-returns.html

[grapevine241]

both are at similar stages in their careers, solid fight for ESPN. i wonder if its going to be at 140 or 147

[donlevy]

Nice to see Judah back where he belongs.He hasn't had a significent win in over five years and has been given chance after chance and big fights that he didn't deserve since then.

 

 

 

Would have been a somewhat decent card had they had Grant-Adamek on the same bill.

[Wheelchair]

Judah a future opponent for Khan maybe?

[donlevy]

Speed + power = Not a suitable opponent for Khan.

 

 

for all Judah's faults,he still has tremendous handspeed,carries good power and is a rough fight for most for about four rounds.No guarantee that Khan would be around in time to watch Judah fall apart after the fourth round.

[davemurphy]

Nice to see Judah back where he belongs.He hasn't had a significent win in over five years and has been given chance after chance and big fights that he didn't deserve since then.

 

 

 

Would have been a somewhat decent card had they had Grant-Adamek on the same bill.

 

Don-

ESPN works on pretty much a shoestring budget, as of a year ago I know they were paying as little as $25 K for Cards......I think that's why they like to go to Canada, because the large Live Crowds up there helps the Promoter offset the cheapo money that ESPN chips in :) I'm sure they are paying more for cards featuring Judah and Adamek, but putting them together on the same bill instead of two broadcast probably made no sense on their budget.

 

Btw, Evander Holyfield wanted $400 K to fight Adamek. Asking ESPN Boxing for $400K

is like going up to the Homeless Man and asking him if he has change for a Hundred :)

[davemurphy]

Speed + power = Not a suitable opponent for Khan.

 

 

for all Judah's faults,he still has tremendous handspeed,carries good power and is a rough fight for most for about four rounds.No guarantee that Khan would be around in time to watch Judah fall apart after the fourth round.

 

Totally agree there. Judah is at best a "six round fighter" anymore, he's going to burn out and crash, but until the point at which the Gas Tank reads Empty, he can still make things tough or make your guy look bad, and his value as a "name on your resume" has greatly diminished. I don't know that Khan would gain much from facing him, there's no upside to it.

[donlevy]

 

Don-

ESPN works on pretty much a shoestring budget, as of a year ago I know they were paying as little as $25 K for Cards......I think that's why they like to go to Canada, because the large Live Crowds up there helps the Promoter offset the cheapo money that ESPN chips in :) I'm sure they are paying more for cards featuring Judah and Adamek, but putting them together on the same bill instead of two broadcast probably made no sense on their budget.

 

 

I understand.I just thought that they might have looked to close their friday night fight schedule(it does end in the summer,doesn't it?) with a big name card like the one they put on last year with Urango-bailey,Cloud-Woods.

[WelshDevilRob]

Nice to see Judah back where he belongs.He hasn't had a significent win in over five years and has been given chance after chance and big fights that he didn't deserve since then.

 

 

 

Would have been a somewhat decent card had they had Grant-Adamek on the same bill.

 

Don-

ESPN works on pretty much a shoestring budget, as of a year ago I know they were paying as little as $25 K for Cards......I think that's why they like to go to Canada, because the large Live Crowds up there helps the Promoter offset the cheapo money that ESPN chips in :) I'm sure they are paying more for cards featuring Judah and Adamek, but putting them together on the same bill instead of two broadcast probably made no sense on their budget.

 

Btw, Evander Holyfield wanted $400 K to fight Adamek. Asking ESPN Boxing for $400K

is like going up to the Homeless Man and asking him if he has change for a Hundred :)

 

Dave, out of interest and because I don't know. Who is the biggest sports channel in the USA? I've obviously heard of HBO, Showtime, ESPN so just wondering which one is the biggest by viewer numbers or financially.

[davemurphy]

 

Don-

ESPN works on pretty much a shoestring budget, as of a year ago I know they were paying as little as $25 K for Cards......I think that's why they like to go to Canada, because the large Live Crowds up there helps the Promoter offset the cheapo money that ESPN chips in :) I'm sure they are paying more for cards featuring Judah and Adamek, but putting them together on the same bill instead of two broadcast probably made no sense on their budget.

 

 

I understand.I just thought that they might have looked to close their friday night fight schedule(it does end in the summer,doesn't it?) with a big name card like the one they put on last year with Urango-bailey,Cloud-Woods.

 

 

Don-

As a send off Card to finish the season, then yeah, it might've made sense. I know with their fall hiatus during the college football season, they want to close on a high note, good point.

[davemurphy]

Nice to see Judah back where he belongs.He hasn't had a significent win in over five years and has been given chance after chance and big fights that he didn't deserve since then.

 

 

 

Would have been a somewhat decent card had they had Grant-Adamek on the same bill.

 

Don-

ESPN works on pretty much a shoestring budget, as of a year ago I know they were paying as little as $25 K for Cards......I think that's why they like to go to Canada, because the large Live Crowds up there helps the Promoter offset the cheapo money that ESPN chips in :) I'm sure they are paying more for cards featuring Judah and Adamek, but putting them together on the same bill instead of two broadcast probably made no sense on their budget.

 

Btw, Evander Holyfield wanted $400 K to fight Adamek. Asking ESPN Boxing for $400K

is like going up to the Homeless Man and asking him if he has change for a Hundred :)

 

Dave, out of interest and because I don't know. Who is the biggest sports channel in the USA? I've obviously heard of HBO, Showtime, ESPN so just wondering which one is the biggest by viewer numbers or financially.

 

 

Rob-

Due to their premium subscriber fees, HBO is pretty much able to put on any fight they want, but Showtime is kind of closing the gap in terms of subscribership. Last I looked HBO had 29 Million Subscribers and Showtime a little over 20 Million, but just a few years ago it was more than 2 to 1 in HBO's favor. Showtime's original programming has improved and cut the gap. How many of those 30 Million actually watch an HBO Fight?

 

This fellow here (see link below) sometimes writes about the Neilson Ratings Numbers that Boxing produces and points out that HBO is down from where it used to be. I’m not sure about Showtime numbers. He also mentions ESPN, which doesn’t charge a premium fee and is available in 90 Million Homes. The fights aren’t nearly as attractive, their budget is a lot less, but drawing a half million viewers for Friday Night Fights is certainly nothing to get excited about. The recent NFL Player Draft drew 10.7 Million Veiwers for ESPN’s highest rating of the year. I’ll be interested to see him write about May’s figures and see if the attractive Andrade-Lucas matchup from Canada got a bit higher rating…..and also what HBO's numbers were from the Williams-Cintron/Mayweather-Mosley Replay broadcast were.

 

 

http://www.theboxingtruth.com/article.php?id=1742

[grapevine241]

HBO runs boxing in the united states at the elite level

[davemurphy]

HBO runs boxing in the united states at the elite level

 

Grapevine-

Yeah, that's pretty much what I was trying to convey to Rob, when HBO wants something then they have the huge pursestrings to get it, but for awhile they were having problems in the matchmaking area. Flushing Millions down the drain on Klitschko mismatches and not really asking much of some of their other Stars in order to push future PPV's. I think based on the last year or so, they've begun to figure out we want more competitive fights.

[grapevine241]

HBO runs boxing in the united states at the elite level

 

Grapevine-

Yeah, that's pretty much what I was trying to convey to Rob, when HBO wants something then they have the huge pursestrings to get it, but for awhile they were having problems in the matchmaking area. Flushing Millions down the drain on Klitschko mismatches and not really asking much of some of their other Stars in order to push future PPV's. I think based on the last year or so, they've begun to figure out we want more competitive fights.

 

very true. i think they finally told shelly finkel and some of those other high profile managers that they are no longer going to showcase against nobodies... at least that seems like what happened

[WelshDevilRob]

Nice to see Judah back where he belongs.He hasn't had a significent win in over five years and has been given chance after chance and big fights that he didn't deserve since then.

 

 

 

Would have been a somewhat decent card had they had Grant-Adamek on the same bill.

 

Don-

ESPN works on pretty much a shoestring budget, as of a year ago I know they were paying as little as $25 K for Cards......I think that's why they like to go to Canada, because the large Live Crowds up there helps the Promoter offset the cheapo money that ESPN chips in :) I'm sure they are paying more for cards featuring Judah and Adamek, but putting them together on the same bill instead of two broadcast probably made no sense on their budget.

 

Btw, Evander Holyfield wanted $400 K to fight Adamek. Asking ESPN Boxing for $400K

is like going up to the Homeless Man and asking him if he has change for a Hundred :)

 

Dave, out of interest and because I don't know. Who is the biggest sports channel in the USA? I've obviously heard of HBO, Showtime, ESPN so just wondering which one is the biggest by viewer numbers or financially.

 

 

Rob-

Due to their premium subscriber fees, HBO is pretty much able to put on any fight they want, but Showtime is kind of closing the gap in terms of subscribership. Last I looked HBO had 29 Million Subscribers and Showtime a little over 20 Million, but just a few years ago it was more than 2 to 1 in HBO's favor. Showtime's original programming has improved and cut the gap. How many of those 30 Million actually watch an HBO Fight?

 

This fellow here (see link below) sometimes writes about the Neilson Ratings Numbers that Boxing produces and points out that HBO is down from where it used to be. I’m not sure about Showtime numbers. He also mentions ESPN, which doesn’t charge a premium fee and is available in 90 Million Homes. The fights aren’t nearly as attractive, their budget is a lot less, but drawing a half million viewers for Friday Night Fights is certainly nothing to get excited about. The recent NFL Player Draft drew 10.7 Million Veiwers for ESPN’s highest rating of the year. I’ll be interested to see him write about May’s figures and see if the attractive Andrade-Lucas matchup from Canada got a bit higher rating…..and also what HBO's numbers were from the Williams-Cintron/Mayweather-Mosley Replay broadcast were.

 

 

http://www.theboxingtruth.com/article.php?id=1742

 

Cheers Dave for the answers. That site looks a good one. CBS and NBC gave up on boxing along time ago, I believe? Do they ever show an interest in boxing?

[LondonRingRules]

ESPN, which doesn’t charge a premium fee and is available in 90 Million Homes. The fights aren’t nearly as attractive, their budget is a lot less, but drawing a half million viewers for Friday Night Fights is certainly nothing to get excited about. The recent NFL Player Draft drew 10.7 Million Veiwers for ESPN’s highest rating of the year. I’ll be interested to see him write about May’s figures and see if the attractive Andrade-Lucas matchup from Canada got a bit higher rating…..and also what HBO's numbers were from the Williams-Cintron/Mayweather-Mosley Replay broadcast were.

http://www.theboxingtruth.com/article.php?id=1742

 

---------The K bros routinely draw 10-15 million German viewers alone, about 50-60% of the share when they fight, so you can see why there is no hurry to go to the US.

 

Then you got the rest of Europe, Russia and east Euros, UK and the US looking in, several million more at very least. No big American heavies for the American public to invest in and the public is just tired of their boys getting beat.

 

10-15 on free TV? Small numbers compared to McGuigan.

[davemurphy]

ESPN, which doesn’t charge a premium fee and is available in 90 Million Homes. The fights aren’t nearly as attractive, their budget is a lot less, but drawing a half million viewers for Friday Night Fights is certainly nothing to get excited about. The recent NFL Player Draft drew 10.7 Million Veiwers for ESPN’s highest rating of the year. I’ll be interested to see him write about May’s figures and see if the attractive Andrade-Lucas matchup from Canada got a bit higher rating…..and also what HBO's numbers were from the Williams-Cintron/Mayweather-Mosley Replay broadcast were.

http://www.theboxingtruth.com/article.php?id=1742

 

---------The K bros routinely draw 10-15 million German viewers alone, about 50-60% of the share when they fight, so you can see why there is no hurry to go to the US.

 

Then you got the rest of Europe, Russia and east Euros, UK and the US looking in, several million more at very least. No big American heavies for the American public to invest in and the public is just tired of their boys getting beat.

 

 

Totally agree, we're pretty conceeded over here and for years thought the HW Championship some kind of American Possesion or something. These HBO numbers don't have anything to do with their overall popularity, look at 55,000 fans and tell me how many showed up to watch Sosnowski? :) We're talking simply USA viewership and the K2's are a bad investment over here, but only over here. For HBO, putting on several better lighter weight fights for the same money makes sense.......and yes LR, it's OUR fault for not producing an American HW that can give them a test. I certainly DON'T agree with those who say "they're too boring", the truth is their "too good".

[iamasadlittleboy]

ESPN, which doesn’t charge a premium fee and is available in 90 Million Homes. The fights aren’t nearly as attractive, their budget is a lot less, but drawing a half million viewers for Friday Night Fights is certainly nothing to get excited about. The recent NFL Player Draft drew 10.7 Million Veiwers for ESPN’s highest rating of the year. I’ll be interested to see him write about May’s figures and see if the attractive Andrade-Lucas matchup from Canada got a bit higher rating…..and also what HBO's numbers were from the Williams-Cintron/Mayweather-Mosley Replay broadcast were.

http://www.theboxingtruth.com/article.php?id=1742

 

---------The K bros routinely draw 10-15 million German viewers alone, about 50-60% of the share when they fight, so you can see why there is no hurry to go to the US.

 

Then you got the rest of Europe, Russia and east Euros, UK and the US looking in, several million more at very least. No big American heavies for the American public to invest in and the public is just tired of their boys getting beat.

 

 

Totally agree, we're pretty conceeded over here and for years thought the HW Championship some kind of American Possesion or something. These HBO numbers don't have anything to do with their overall popularity, look at 55,000 fans and tell me how many showed up to watch Sosnowski? :) We're talking simply USA viewership and the K2's are a bad investment over here, but only over here. For HBO, putting on several better lighter weight fights for the same money makes sense.......and yes LR, it's OUR fault for not producing an American HW that can give them a test. I certainly DON'T agree with those who say "they're too boring", the truth is their "too good".

 

Been saying that so long I felt like a broken record, funnily other divisions are being invaded by Eastern Europeans...could be a fun few years where America starts to be over taken by the Russians/Germans.

[davemurphy]

It's simply a case where athletes in those countries are attracted to Boxing and that's not the case here.