Faulks Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 http://www.espn.co.uk/more/sport/story/20852.html?CMP=OTC-RSS Manny Pacquiao has accused Floyd Mayweather Jnr of running scared after Mayweather once again insisted on pre-fight drug testing when asked about a future showdown between the two fighters. Shane Mosley was swept aside by Mayweather over the weekend, making it five decision victories in his last six fights. However, for the first time in his career, "Pretty Boy" was put in real trouble by Mosley who clearly buckled the legs of Mayweather with a big right hand. Inevitably, post-fight thoughts immediately turned to a super-fight with Pacquiao, in a contest that would -in the eyes of many - determine the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world of boxing. Mayweather continues to insists on Olympic-style drug testing, as adhered to by Mosley, and until Pacquaio follows suit it seems there will be no agreement. "If Manny Pacquiao wants to fight, it's not hard to find me," Mayweather said after Saturday's victory. "We were going to make this fight happen a couple of months back. We couldn't make it happen, so we moved on. "All I want to do is be on an even playing field. If every athlete is keen, then take the test. I'm willing to take the test. Like I've said before, if Manny Pacquiao takes the blood and urine tests, we can make the fight happen. [if he doesn't] then we got no fight." Pacquiao is adamant there is no need to call his honesty into question by implementing tests, and he accused Mayweather of 'dodging' the defining fight of his career. "He's just making up excuses," Pacquiao said in the Times. "He's still dodging me. "I'm not against blood testing, as long as it's not done on the fight day itself." © ESPN EMEA Ltd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshDevilRob Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 Good to hear from Manny. I agree with him and his standpoint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamasadlittleboy Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 Again, why not use the bloody hair for tests? Yes it costs more but it doesn't mess with anything (weight making or mental) and with a fight with THIS much surely money is no object? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jango Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 i reckon mayweather just scared ,looking for every reason not to fight him , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimmy Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 I don´t know though. Mayweather has as much to gain than to lose from this fight. A win here will put Floyd in the ´Great´ list of all time fighters. I will be very disappointed if this fight fails to happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheelchair Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 I have a feeling the fight will happen. It may take a while, but there's so much at stake it would be foolish for everyone involved if they stood by and watched it all go tits up. We'll just have to be patient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBride Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 He wont even fight Mosley, never mind Mayweather. The excuses are just that, excuses. Take the frigging tests that the other fella is willing to take. He likes people to give in to his demands, but doesn't go along with any they make, citing this pathetic p4p bullshit, and Fagin with his my dad is bigger than your dad horseshit. If he was serious he would WANT to fight an unbeaten fighter who has climbed the divisions like he has, simple as. Get it into your pea sized brain 5 years ago you LOST to the semi shot Morales, whilst Mayweather tortured the equally shot Gatti for 6 rounds. In your last 2 fights you got to fight a weight restricted fighter who may well have been the victim of an illegal beating the previous year, and a lump of wood from Africa who couldn't win an argument at a decent level, whilst Mayweather has made two of boxings most accomplished fighters look like novices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faulks Posted May 5, 2010 Author Share Posted May 5, 2010 Good to see your saitting on the fence McBride mlol/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBride Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 Just quoting the stats Ian. mlol/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheelchair Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 whilst Mayweather has made two of boxings most accomplished fighters look like novices. To be fair the Marquez fight doesn't really count for much. Mayweather beat a fighter who was fighting way above his ideal weight. That's a pretty big advantage to have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamasadlittleboy Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 He wont even fight Mosley, never mind Mayweather. The excuses are just that, excuses. Take the frigging tests that the other fella is willing to take. He likes people to give in to his demands, but doesn't go along with any they make, citing this pathetic p4p B*lls**t, and Fagin with his my dad is bigger than your dad horseshit. If he was serious he would WANT to fight an unbeaten fighter who has climbed the divisions like he has, simple as. Get it into your pea sized brain 5 years ago you LOST to the semi shot Morales, whilst Mayweather tortured the equally shot Gatti for 6 rounds. In your last 2 fights you got to fight a weight restricted fighter who may well have been the victim of an illegal beating the previous year, and a lump of wood from Africa who couldn't win an argument at a decent level, whilst Mayweather has made two of boxings most accomplished fighters look like novices. Climbed the divisions "like he did"? Floyd started well up on Manny in the terms whe which divisions. 7 years ago (When Floyd was 25/26) he got a gift against Castillo, the same age that Manny was when he lost to Morales... (just a twist on what you've said but worth noting). Also worth noting is the fact that Manny had had blood taken and his weight the day before was messed up due to feeling light headed and taking on extra water AT A WEIGHT HE HAD NEVER FOUGHT AT whilst Floyd's with Gatti was at a weigth he was comfortable at and had fought several times there previously. I count the Clottey win exactly the same as I count the Baldomir one, they are completely equal tbh. Though if Manny was still at 140 and fought the top guy at 130 would you give him credit for beating a guy 2 divisions smaller? Lets also not forget that Floyd opponents ages for his last 5 fights have been: 35 (Baldomir) 34 (Oscar) 29 (Hatton) 36 (Marquez) 38 (Mosley) Average age of what 34.4? (dragged down by Hatton) Manny's opponents ages: 32 (Diaz) 35 (Oscar) 30 (Hatton) 29 (Cotto) 32 (Clottey) Average age of 31.6? I've likely ballsed it up somewhere but that looks like Floyd likes beating up on old men... (I'll give you the fact Oscar and Hatton were older when Pacquiao faced them though also give the fact that it was "Hatton's" weight) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBride Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 Sorry wheelchair but i cant accept that. His previous 2 fights were at Lightweight, I think we can safely assume he entered the ring at 144 - 146 for those fights. Against Mayweather he weighed in at 142, so was probably not much more than 146 by fight time. True Mayweather will have been much bigger than that but he didn't fight to that advantage. He totally outboxed the guy, he didn't outmuscle him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheelchair Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 Surely you'd agree that the weight of Mayweather's punching would have surprised Marquez? Floyd is a much bigger guy afterall, he's a former 154lbs title-holder. I just think beating up on a smaller man proves nothing much. The Mosley win however was a different case. Shane had fought at a higher weight for much longer and was well acclimatised to taking bigger men's punches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBride Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 I think you'll find it was Gatti that was comfortable at the weight he fought Mayweather at with the experience at the weight, Mayweather was having his third fight at 140. Age is irrelevant. Mayweather immediately rematched JLC and left no room for doubt, but seeeing as you mentioned it Mayweather was having his 27th fight in his then 6 year career, when " gifted " the decision against Castillo. Pacciow was having his 43rd fight in his then 10 year career when he lost to Morales. As for beating up on smaller guys, I suspect that only counts if you are actually beating them up ( like Pacciow was on the lighter, skeletal Oscar, particularly when you cant even knock them off their feet ) not though when you outbox and humiliate the other guy with skill alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre00 Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 Manny P. problem is, he keeps changing his stories, now he saying not on fight night, Arum is saying nothing less than 17/18 days before the fight and Arum is BOSS, Roach is saying a different thing, Roach is saying 14 days is fine!! So what now???? Which one is it ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woola4 Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 Not surprised by Pacmans comments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jian85 Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 I think you'll find it was Gatti that was comfortable at the weight he fought Mayweather at with the experience at the weight, Mayweather was having his third fight at 140. Age is irrelevant. Mayweather immediately rematched JLC and left no room for doubt, but seeeing as you mentioned it Mayweather was having his 27th fight in his then 6 year career, when " gifted " the decision against Castillo. Pacciow was having his 43rd fight in his then 10 year career when he lost to Morales. As for beating up on smaller guys, I suspect that only counts if you are actually beating them up ( like Pacciow was on the lighter, skeletal Oscar, particularly when you cant even knock them off their feet ) not though when you outbox and humiliate the other guy with skill alone. Age makes no difference ?? Pretty sure your skills deteriorate with age thats why people retire. Mayweather fights old men ala Mosley who is supposedly his greatest opponent. It's no coincidence that his opponents are old. Pacman has fought better opposition and more so in their prime than Mayweather ever has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woola4 Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 I think you'll find it was Gatti that was comfortable at the weight he fought Mayweather at with the experience at the weight, Mayweather was having his third fight at 140. Age is irrelevant. Mayweather immediately rematched JLC and left no room for doubt, but seeeing as you mentioned it Mayweather was having his 27th fight in his then 6 year career, when " gifted " the decision against Castillo. Pacciow was having his 43rd fight in his then 10 year career when he lost to Morales. As for beating up on smaller guys, I suspect that only counts if you are actually beating them up ( like Pacciow was on the lighter, skeletal Oscar, particularly when you cant even knock them off their feet ) not though when you outbox and humiliate the other guy with skill alone. Age makes no difference ?? Pretty sure your skills deteriorate with age thats why people retire. Mayweather fights old men ala Mosley who is supposedly his greatest opponent. It's no coincidence that his opponents are old. Pacman has fought better opposition and more so in their prime than Mayweather ever has. Best post I've seen today bravo// and well done jian85 :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woola4 Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 It has been rumoured that Mayweather is trying to coerce the once excellent fighter Azumah Nelson out of retirement for his next fight by flashing $$$ around and promising Azumah massive PPV numbers. Azumah currently 51 years old who last fought against Jeff Fenech at 152 LB in 2008, said he feels like a 38 year old stallion and should have no problem making the 147 LB welterweight limit. PS: Just a little humour mlol/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheelchair Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 It has been rumoured that Mayweather is trying to coerce the once excellent fighter Azumah Nelson out of retirement by flashing $$$ around and promising Azumah massive PPV numbers for his next fight. Azumah currently 51 years old who last fought against Jeff Fenech at 152 LB in 2008, said he feels like a 38 year old stallion and should have no problem making the 147 LB welterweight limit. PS: Just a little humour mlol/ Oi! Don't go giving Amir Khan any ideas, he likes facing faded legends. mlol/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woola4 Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 It has been rumoured that Mayweather is trying to coerce the once excellent fighter Azumah Nelson out of retirement by flashing $$$ around and promising Azumah massive PPV numbers for his next fight. Azumah currently 51 years old who last fought against Jeff Fenech at 152 LB in 2008, said he feels like a 38 year old stallion and should have no problem making the 147 LB welterweight limit. PS: Just a little humour mlol/ Oi! Don't go giving Amir Khan any ideas, he likes facing faded legends. mlol/ Oops forgot about Khan hahahahaha mlol/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapevine241 Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 nelson-mayweather would have been a hell of a fight at 130 if they were fighting at the same time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheelchair Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 nelson-mayweather would have been a hell of a fight at 130 if they were fighting at the same time It would have been a cracker, as would Nelson-Pacquiao. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woola4 Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 nelson-mayweather would have been a hell of a fight at 130 if they were fighting at the same time very true grapevine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre00 Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 lol Azuma has the same puncher chance as Shane/Manny/PW/Martinez has!! So it`s fair!!! Shane said he was feeling 28 prime !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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