super_hoops1967 Posted April 25, 2010 Share Posted April 25, 2010 Carl Froch is threatening to walk away from the Super Six tournament unless his next fight is guaranteed to take place in Britain. Froch lost his WBC super-middleweight title after being outpointed by Denmark's Mikkel Kessler on Saturday night in Herning, but the Nottingham fighter is adamant he was the victim of a hometown decision. The 'Cobra' has one win and a loss from his two tournament showings and next up for the 32-year-old is German-Armenian Arthur Abraham. And Froch's promoter, Mick Hennessy, claims to have an agreement in place to see the fight held in Britain but Abraham's promoters, Sauerland Events, are adamant the bout will be staged in Berlin - a claim which has riled Froch. "I am adamant that the next fight, with Arthur Abraham, will be taking place in Britain. I won't be fighting in Germany, it's as simple as that," he said. "It would mean me pulling out of the tournament if they forced me to fight in Berlin. So I want to get that straight from the start: it has already been agreed that I would fight at home, fight away and a fight back at home. It has been agreed with Ken Hershman at Showtime (Super Six organisers). "So my fight with Abraham is in England or the fight is not happening and will make a mockery of the tournament. It's as simple as that." In front of a partisan Danish crowd, home favourite Kessler impressed all three judges and was awarded the fight 117-111, 115-113 and 116-112 as Froch lost his unbeaten record. And although the Englishman, who was defending his title for a third time since winning the vacant belt against Jean Pascal in December 2008, is willing to quit the tournament, he admits he is desperate to reclaim his belt and unify the division. "As the Super Six World Boxing Classic rolls on and gets more interesting, a win against Abraham puts me in the semi-final and then there is the final. I can still be undisputed champion in my next three fights, let's not forget that. This fight is going to make me stronger, better and more determined," he added. German promoter Wilfried Sauerland has insisted any previous agreement was simply for the contest to take place somewhere in Europe and it now looks likely that wherever the match-up will earn the most revenue, is where the fight will take place. throw some punches and you'll score points with the judges....simples dickhead! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamasadlittleboy Posted April 25, 2010 Share Posted April 25, 2010 Should be in Nevada...Showtime should show all 3 of the 3rd phase fights on the same night, same venue, shame show, same PPV...no reason other than it being better than having them spread out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super_hoops1967 Posted April 25, 2010 Author Share Posted April 25, 2010 Is never get o sleep lol. First ighr would be about 5am uk time lol :) would be good tho (if I was in America) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavpowell Posted April 25, 2010 Share Posted April 25, 2010 He's within his rights to complain if they're screwing him around on something that was agreed upon - especially as we've seen some shocking decisions at supermiddle in Germany over the years. It makes very little difference to the result - I think Abraham will knock him out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super_hoops1967 Posted April 25, 2010 Author Share Posted April 25, 2010 Yeah if he performs lime he did last night he's gettin nowhere near the cards especially if he's cocky with his hands down all night. Can't be a good loser like arreola can he.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dulais_valley Posted April 25, 2010 Share Posted April 25, 2010 There's a blog entry on beeb at the moment that portrays Froch as a really good loser and perhaps a little unlucky in the fight. I think it describes the 117-111 as "ludicrous". It was definitely a few rounds wide, but ludicrous? I'm not sure about that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super_hoops1967 Posted April 25, 2010 Author Share Posted April 25, 2010 He didn't deserve to win sooner he realises that and moves on and stops moaning the better. I think he's just pissed his records not gonna look pretty like jc's :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dulais_valley Posted April 25, 2010 Share Posted April 25, 2010 I bet he had already written a ten minute speech on just what knocking out Kessler had proved about Joe's career. It read brilliantly and taunted Joe to the point that he could do nothin but get back in the ring. Then it all went tits up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamasadlittleboy Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 He's within his rights to complain if they're screwing him around on something that was agreed upon - especially as we've seen some shocking decisions at supermiddle in Germany over the years. It makes very little difference to the result - I think Abraham will knock him out. Britain has dodgy decisions too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_budweiser Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 I watched the fight on a British telecast (Primesport? or something like that) and the British commentators had the bout a draw or one round up for Kessler; which was not how I had it at all. Its quite possible, going off that bias, that if the fight had have been in England that Froch may have got the decision, not that he'd have deserved it. score ecto? primetime in studio and carls friend darren barker had it 1-0 to froch, commentators had it to kessler by 1. i had it to kessler by 4, i dont blame the judge that had it 6. there was a few draw rounds that could of went either way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheelchair Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 It doesn't matter where you're fighting Carl. If you don't throw anything, you won't get a decision. You were schooled by Kessler, get over it and learn from your mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Top Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 I watched the fight on a British telecast (Primesport? or something like that) and the British commentators had the bout a draw or one round up for Kessler; which was not how I had it at all. Its quite possible, going off that bias, that if the fight had have been in England that Froch may have got the decision, not that he'd have deserved it. I gave it to Kessler by 2, but admittedly I gave a couple of close rounds to Froch which I may have given the other way without bias, so I can quite easily understand a 4 point lead for Kessler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knock-out-ned Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 can't see what the fuss is about. hennessy claims that he has confirmation that the fight will take place in britain. sauerland say europe. one of them is right. if it's hennessy and froch is right about what he says, then there's no issue. the fight is in the uk. besides, it's hard to say who deserves it more. both have lost once, both lost their last fight, both lost away from home, both won their opening fight in the tournament at home, both have seemed fairly happy to travel in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavpowell Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 He's within his rights to complain if they're screwing him around on something that was agreed upon - especially as we've seen some shocking decisions at supermiddle in Germany over the years. It makes very little difference to the result - I think Abraham will knock him out. Britain has dodgy decisions too... Yeah absolutelty, though for the super middle division, Germany leads the world in shit decisions. Like I said, it's irrelevant because it won't go to the judges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheils Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 Had Froch beaten Kessler I don't think there would be as much fuss. Neither Froch nor Abrahams are champions and so lets hope a combination of established agreement and common sense dictate where the fight takes palce. Abrahams will be a tough opponent and 'home advantage' would surely help Froch, but a 'proud warrior' (Froch's own words) would be prepared to take a trip to Germany and win, in order to get a chance to reclaim his WBC title. Froch pulling out of the Super Six would be a disaster, not for the competition, but his reputation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheelchair Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 Froch needs to realise that the reason he didn't get the verdict had absolutely nothing to do with the location of the fight. He's won away from home before, so why the big fuss? He's in denial and looking for excuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brooklynbrawler Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 I haven't even had a chance to see the fight yet, but all accounts seem to be that Kessler won a close but convincing decision. I do get his point that he may have been given the nod if it was in Nottingham, but he shouldn't have to be relying on a hometown decision. If the consensus is that Kessler won by a slim margin, then it shouldn't matter where the fight is. I think Froch, given he entered the tournament with a world title and just faced Kessler away from home, should be given a home fight against Abraham, and I actually assumed this was the case anyway. I'd rather it was in Nottingham just so there's more chance of getting to the fight, if nothing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheelchair Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 I haven't even had a chance to see the fight yet, but all accounts seem to be that Kessler won a close but convincing decision. I do get his point that he may have been given the nod if it was in Nottingham, but he shouldn't have to be relying on a hometown decision. Not a chance. Froch was well beaten, 7-4-1 is how I had it in Kessler's favour. I was being generous to Froch too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabandmove Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 I think it was a really close fight and would not have argued either way. I am genuinely surprised how much negativity there seems to be towards Froch though. He lost a close fight to a very credible opponent, no shame in that. I like to give Froch credit for taking the opportunity to fight Kessler in Denmark and to travel to America to fight Jermain Taylor, some fighters are happy to get a belt and feast on worthless opposition for years before testing themselves. Yes Froch just came up short in probably the biggest fight of his career but get of his back! As for where he fights AA, I don't blame either fighter for trying to get home advantage, no matter what any of us say or think, fighting at home does bring an advantage even if it just less travel and keeping to home comforts etc. So why not try and secure that for yourself? If there is any major dispute then fight at a neutral venue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leerhodes Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 In his right to complain Froch is in his right to complain you cant move the goalposts halfway through the tournament. Froch had the hardest draw on paper at the start of the tournament and it said he would be fighting Abrahams in England and so that should be the end of the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheelchair Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 Maybe if they pay him a bit extra Carl will withdraw his demands. Money talks remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshDevilRob Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 As its the 3rd round and most are on 1-1. Why not have them all fight on 1 bill in Las Vegas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheelchair Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 Good idea. The best compromise all round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Top Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 As its the 3rd round and most are on 1-1. Why not have them all fight on 1 bill in Las Vegas? that would be an immense fight card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamasadlittleboy Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 oi thief i said the same thing >_> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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