The_budweiser Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Mexican modern legend Erik Morales has told the public to be aware that the upcoming mega fight between Saul Alvarez and Floyd Mayweather may not contain the fireworks that a lot of us expect. http://ringnews24.com/index.php/world-boxing-news/item/4979-morales-tells-public-to-beware-of-mayweather-vs-alvarez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavpowell Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Re: Morales tells public to beware of Mayweather vs Alvarez He's not wrong, though was Morales-Barrera 1 hotly anticipated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotalFightGame Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Re: Morales tells public to beware of Mayweather vs Alvarez I completely agree with him, I am surprised people are considering this fight to contain 'fireworks'. Whilst it is the biggest test out there for Mayweather and him moving up to face the best in the division, and in that sense I'm pumped, the styles of the two far from dictate some kind of epic fight. If it is a close bout it will be great to watch but because is is two elite fighters having a good competition not because it is some kind of barn burner. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemurphy Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Re: Morales tells public to beware of Mayweather vs Alvarez Historically he's got a decent case, things like Trinidad-De La Hoya come to mind.......highly anticipated but in the end it was a dud. But I don't understand why Erik's going out of his way to diss this fight. If he was asked a question about it and gave this as an answer then I could see it, but he's kind of offering it up without any prodding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavpowell Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Re: Morales tells public to beware of Mayweather vs Alvarez Historically he's got a decent case, things like Trinidad-De La Hoya come to mind.......highly anticipated but in the end it was a dud. But I don't understand why Erik's going out of his way to diss this fight. If he was asked a question about it and gave this as an answer then I could see it, but he's kind of offering it up without any prodding. Loyalty to Top Rank? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemurphy Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Re: Morales tells public to beware of Mayweather vs Alvarez Loyalty to Top Rank? You know, I hadn't thought about that, but he's pretty close to Bob Arum (not just as his promoter, but they even mingle together when at the Hall of Fame). I think you just hit the nail on the head.....I hope there's not going to be a string of TR fighters talking down the fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotalFightGame Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 Re: Morales tells public to beware of Mayweather vs Alvarez Historically he's got a decent case, things like Trinidad-De La Hoya come to mind.......highly anticipated but in the end it was a dud. But I don't understand why Erik's going out of his way to diss this fight. If he was asked a question about it and gave this as an answer then I could see it, but he's kind of offering it up without any prodding. I agree and would go further than that. whilst DLH-Trinidad was anticipated in a similar manner in terms of the event, which resulted in a dud. The styles of the two fighters actually suggested the fight itself may be a great fight. This fight to me does not have that. I don't see what about the two styles of these fighters illustrates that this will be a great fight in the context of fireworks. It may be a great chess match to watch etc but I am not expecting too much action. Even Canelo who will presumably be the one who pushes the action has a low workrate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoztheMadman Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 Re: Morales tells public to beware of Mayweather vs Alvarez Mayhap he gets proven right, but we can always hope not. Floyd's fights in general arent known for their EXCITEMENT, not since he went up to 147. His most exciting fight recently was against Ortiz.:mlol: But for the wrong reasons.:tsk: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemurphy Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 Re: Morales tells public to beware of Mayweather vs Alvarez I agree and would go further than that. whilst DLH-Trinidad was anticipated in a similar manner in terms of the event, which resulted in a dud. The styles of the two fighters actually suggested the fight itself may be a great fight. This fight to me does not have that. I don't see what about the two styles of these fighters illustrates that this will be a great fight in the context of fireworks. It may be a great chess match to watch etc but I am not expecting too much action. Even Canelo who will presumably be the one who pushes the action has a low workrate. That's a good point. A lot of people have a misconception of Canelo that he's more aggressive than he actually is, he'll sometimes force the action but he's hardly a Roberto Duran-type, which is actually what you just about need when your confronting a fleet counterpuncher along the lines of Mayweather. Canelo isn't going to throw caution to the wind and exercise a seek-and-destroy mission, he's too controlled for that, and in this case that's NOT a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoztheMadman Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 Re: Morales tells public to beware of Mayweather vs Alvarez That's a good point. A lot of people have a misconception of Canelo that he's more aggressive than he actually is, he'll sometimes force the action but he's hardly a Roberto Duran-type, which is actually what you just about need when your confronting a fleet counterpuncher along the lines of Mayweather. Canelo isn't going to throw caution to the wind and exercise a seek-and-destroy mission, he's too controlled for that, and in this case that's NOT a good thing. Yeh...shame he isn't more like Matthysse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonRingRules Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 (edited) Re: Morales tells public to beware of Mayweather vs Alvarez I don't see what about the two styles of these fighters illustrates that this will be a great fight in the context of fireworks. It may be a great chess match to watch etc but I am not expecting too much action. Even Canelo who will presumably be the one who pushes the action has a low workrate. --- Well, now, Floydy has a style for every season. Using boxrec last 6 fights as an indicator, he was Mr. Chickenman against Guerrero, or Usain Bolt, toed it up pretty close to Cotto and risked a lot, played out an excellent WWE Big Show reenactment against Ortiz with help from Uncle Joe Cortez, came back hard after Mosley almost knocked him out to dominate that fight, came in 2 pounds over his catchweight fight with Marquez to stay in reverse gear when not in chinese gymnast contortions against the much smaller man to pot shot a decision, and needed help from his Uncle Joe again to keep Ricky off him to score a late KO, so I don't figure how anyone can figure what Floydy's gonna do. We do know he gets knocked out if he goes toe to toe with Canelo. Canelo fought Trout completely opposite of Lopez and that different to Mosley, ect. I'd imagine Floydy reprises Mr. Chickenman again. He fought Cotto and got his legs taken away from him, so he's not likely to risk that style against a younger, harder hitter. BTW, if Floydy had a work rate, you'd see it in more fights. He takes a risk every time it goes to the scorecards that judges are finally gonna tire of his boring style. The only thing Canelo really has to worry about is his elbows. Otherwise, he could review Hagler/Leonard or Mancini/Camacho to see how the chickenstyle works for Floydy, and figure out how not to make those mistakes. Hagler gave away the early rounds to try to outbox Leonard orthodox and then let him get off too many popcorn flurries Hagler could have stepped away from or unloaded his own shots. Mancini should have never fought Camacho since Chicken had become his new style. Floydy couldn't win a chicken fight in Mexico against Canelo, but thus far in Vegas, he can even get ragdolled against Castillo and still win, so Canelo needs a knockout, the hardest thing to get on a chicken. Might get with some pro chicken catchers in Mexico and study their techniques, because it ain't natural for a human being to be able to catch a chicken in a pen without some major practice. Edited June 7, 2013 by LondonRingRules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavpowell Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 Re: Morales tells public to beware of Mayweather vs Alvarez Mayweather arguably didn't even lose that round, that's how close to a knockout it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemurphy Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 Re: Morales tells public to beware of Mayweather vs Alvarez Mayweather arguably didn't even lose that round, that's how close to a knockout it was. Agreed. He was breifly stunned for about two seconds, but the Floyd haters have blown it into his being out on his feet and hanging on for dear life. In a few years, we'll be hearing about how his corner debated stopping the fight between rounds :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skav Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 Re: Morales tells public to beware of Mayweather vs Alvarez It was the Mosley fight that Floyd answered questions about his chin. It was that 2nd round when I had a sudden realisation that he was the real deal. That and the Cotto fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshDevilRob Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 Re: Morales tells public to beware of Mayweather vs Alvarez I'm not really expecting an exciting fight. It could be tense, at times but I think it will probably be Floyd handing out a boxing lesson to "Canelo". The PPV numbers are likely to be the most explosive thing about the fight - I think it will sell extremely well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonRingRules Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 Re: Morales tells public to beware of Mayweather vs Alvarez Agreed. He was breifly stunned for about two seconds, but the Floyd haters have blown it into his being out on his feet and hanging on for dear life. In a few years, we'll be hearing about how his corner debated stopping the fight between rounds :laugh: --- Dave, everyone gasped and the HBO crew jumped into overdrive. If he could have protected himself he wouldn't have caught the couple of followup shots in the 10 sec or so that he was helpless. Floydy has be hurt before and will again, but never that bad. Mosley shocked himself so badly he hyperventilated all his energy into thin air let Floydy off the hook before he could recover. Go back and review that round and the audio, it was a big punch. Has Floydy passed into Ali lalaland aka when I first joined the AOL boards? Jokers claimed he never got hit........yeah, right, go tell it to his docs.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poztin Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 Re: Morales tells public to beware of Mayweather vs Alvarez He got hit flush with a beauty of a right hand, and yet it still didn't put him down. That punch would have knocked many a fighter out or at least floored them. It didn't, he showed he also has a damn good chin, which must have sunk the hearts of every fighter out there who thought they might have a punchers chance of beating him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemurphy Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 Re: Morales tells public to beware of Mayweather vs Alvarez I'm not really expecting an exciting fight. It could be tense, at times but I think it will probably be Floyd handing out a boxing lesson to "Canelo". The PPV numbers are likely to be the most explosive thing about the fight - I think it will sell extremely well. Agreed. Some people are projecting in the 1.6 million range, but I'm going to go even higher than that and predict it breaks 2 million. I think the timing is right and there's a lot of people (not you or I :laugh: ) particularly among the hispanics, that think Canelo got a shot at pulling the upset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemurphy Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 Re: Morales tells public to beware of Mayweather vs Alvarez --- Dave, everyone gasped and the HBO crew jumped into overdrive. If he could have protected himself he wouldn't have caught the couple of followup shots in the 10 sec or so that he was helpless. It was a solid shot and he reacted to it by stumbling, but I thought the HBO guys overreacted and there's no way he was in serious danger for 10 seconds, he knew where he was the whole time. I think the ten rounds of tortuously one-sided action that followed only served to leave people grasping for something to take from the fight and it got embellished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshDevilRob Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 Re: Morales tells public to beware of Mayweather vs Alvarez --- Dave, everyone gasped and the HBO crew jumped into overdrive. If he could have protected himself he wouldn't have caught the couple of followup shots in the 10 sec or so that he was helpless. Floydy has be hurt before and will again, but never that bad. Mosley shocked himself so badly he hyperventilated all his energy into thin air let Floydy off the hook before he could recover. Go back and review that round and the audio, it was a big punch. Has Floydy passed into Ali lalaland aka when I first joined the AOL boards? Jokers claimed he never got hit........yeah, right, go tell it to his docs.... I recall that round and Floyd got badly tagged. He was in serious trouble but did use his know how to get safe. I think it was down to Mosley's age, that Floyd got out of that round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshDevilRob Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 Re: Morales tells public to beware of Mayweather vs Alvarez It was a solid shot and he reacted to it by stumbling, but I thought the HBO guys overreacted and there's no way he was in serious danger for 10 seconds, he knew where he was the whole time. I think the ten rounds of tortuously one-sided action that followed only served to leave people grasping for something to take from the fight and it got embellished. I gotta disagree on this. I thought he was seriously hurt but Mosley was incapable of putting in the final touches - mixed with Mayweathers defensive abilities going into overdrive. But, for me, Floyd was in a heap of trouble but came out the other side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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