gemmell100 Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 by James Slater - WBA heavyweight champion David Haye is not in the least bit excited about this coming Saturday's WBC heavyweight title fight between champ Vitali Klitschko and unbeaten challenger Kevin Johnson. In fact, if it were not for the fact that he wishes to watch as much of Vitali in action as he can so as to help get himself as adequately prepared as possible for the day when he gets in the ring with the giant, Haye would not even bother tuning in. This is what the 29-year-old Londoner has told the BBC anyway. Haye, who defeated Nikolay Valuev to claim the WBA belt just over a month ago, has also ripped into the elder of the two Klitschko brothers by questioning "Dr Iron Fist's" legacy.. Haye, who is never quiet about his possible rival opponents, wants to fight both Vitali and Ring magazine, IBF and WBO champion Wladmir next year, and it seems he is back to his taunting best, trying once again to talk his way into the fights he has previously pulled out of. Haye, who says he wants to become a legend, says Vitali is leaving it late if he too wants to really leave his mark on the sport. "Vitali is nearly 40 years of age now, and the clock is ticking," Haye said. "There are probably one million dudes in America called Kevin Johnson, and beating one of them doesn't make you an all-time great. Vitali's greatest performance to date is a loss to Lennox Lewis. That's his most memorable fight and the one result on his record that will be remembered in the history books. "The Klitschkos don't care about being great fighters, whereas I do." As formidable and as superb as Vitali Klitschko has looked since his cuts-enforced TKO loss to Lewis, Haye has a point - there aren't a whole lot of other big names on the 38-year-old's record. And most fans seem to think Vitali will have no trouble in handling "King Pin" Johnson on Saturday, but they also ask, as does Haye, "who is Kevin Johnson?" On the other hand, if Vitali is interested in leaving behind a great legacy, who else could he fight right now so as to do so? It's not like Klitschko is avoiding anyone, is it? Haye feels the two brothers have to beat him to prove their dominance, but if one or even both of the two giants did so, would that raise their profile amongst the all-time greats? One thing is sure, a Haye Vs. Vitali fight would have generated a whole lot more interest than this Saturday's Vitali Vs. Johnson affair. Haye laid into the upcoming fight, and called it unappealing. "The Klitschkos may be big in Switzerland, but so are yodellers, and nobody wants to watch them fight," Haye said. "It's [Klitschko-Johnson] one of the most unappealing heavyweight title fights for a long time, and that's saying something. The fact that a title fight between a Ukrainian and an American is being held in Switzerland tells you all you need to know about the appeal of this fight. "Heavyweight title fights should be huge events, not an after-thought in a country most famous for producing Toblerones." It has to be said, some of Haye's comments are pretty darn funny! One thing Haye is, is a sharp and witty person who attracts attention. And there's no doubt about it; a Haye-Klitschko fight would be a huge event - as we know from the massive amounts of tickets his aborted fight with Wladimir shifted last summer. Haye told The BBC he "wants to knock out both Wladimir and Vitali Klitschko next year," and that he doesn't care what order they fall in. Let's hope that if the fight(s) can be made in 2010, Haye will actually be able to go through with them this time. Say what you want, but there is no hotter heavyweight title fight out there than a Haye Vs. Klitschko showdown. http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=22207&more=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gainshammer Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 think haye v klitchsos are the only fights in the heavyweight division to get excited about never heard of kevin johnson i think haye sparks vlad not sure about vitali he seems to have a good chin but with hayes power you never know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapevine241 Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 vitali wants to have a name in the U.S.... thats why hes fighting american fighters. nobody in the U.S. outside of boxing fans cared that haye beat valuev (granted, it wasnt televised here which considering it was a snoozefest may have been for the best)... people in the U.S. would embrace haye if he were to fight arreola or a guy like james toney though. a sort of true but dumb comment about vitali's legacy from haye considering he pulled out of fights against both of the klitschkos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gainshammer Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 haye v arreola would be a decent fight not sure about james toney though i think toneys best days ended at supermiddle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapevine241 Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 haye v arreola would be a decent fight not sure about james toney though i think toneys best days ended at supermiddle i dont know if hes past it or not, but hes still probably the biggest "name" american heavyweight. arreola is popular and chambers is known to boxing fans but i dont know if they are as widely known as toney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Top Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 vitali wants to have a name in the U.S.... thats why hes fighting american fighters. nobody in the U.S. outside of boxing fans cared that haye beat valuev (granted, it wasnt televised here which considering it was a snoozefest may have been for the best)... people in the U.S. would embrace haye if he were to fight arreola or a guy like james toney though. a sort of true but dumb comment about vitali's legacy from haye considering he pulled out of fights against both of the klitschkos he didnt pull out against both, he pulled out against wlad, the vitali fight was never made to be pulled out of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gemmell100 Posted December 10, 2009 Author Share Posted December 10, 2009 vitali wants to have a name in the U.S.... thats why hes fighting american fighters. nobody in the U.S. outside of boxing fans cared that haye beat valuev (granted, it wasnt televised here which considering it was a snoozefest may have been for the best)... people in the U.S. would embrace haye if he were to fight arreola or a guy like james toney though. a sort of true but dumb comment about vitali's legacy from haye considering he pulled out of fights against both of the klitschkos he didnt pull out against both, he pulled out against wlad, the vitali fight was never made to be pulled out of x2 vitali wanted a 3 rematch cotract lol// lol// Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapevine241 Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 yeah but it was about to be made before haye and his team got unprofessional with vitali & his team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshDevilRob Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 yeah but it was about to be made before haye and his team got unprofessional with vitali & his team They found Valuev and Don King alot easier to negotiate with which speaks volumes about the Klitschkos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gemmell100 Posted December 11, 2009 Author Share Posted December 11, 2009 yeah but it was about to be made before haye and his team got unprofessional with vitali & his team what do you expect haye to do. smile and say no thankyou vitali?? i would have told klitschko to fuk right off!!!! treating haye like a piece of turd when he was the 1 that sold the fight. why didn't they give arreola a contract like that?? because vitali knew arreola is average. and haye is a threat. the contract that they gave haye summed up what the klitschko's are all about. safety first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mofo2 Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 gem.........so much fecking sense mate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapevine241 Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 yeah but it was about to be made before haye and his team got unprofessional with vitali & his team what do you expect haye to do. smile and say no thankyou vitali?? i would have told klitschko to fuk right off!!!! treating haye like a piece of turd when he was the 1 that sold the fight. why didn't they give arreola a contract like that?? because vitali knew arreola is average. and haye is a threat. the contract that they gave haye summed up what the klitschko's are all about. safety first the klitschko's have the belts and haye had no credibility as a heavyweight... haye didnt deserve to get anywhere near 50-50. haye definitely helped the sales but its not like klitschkos cant sell out stadiums by themselves. thats all im saying. in the long run haye was smart because he has a belt now which means more negotiating power. but it doesnt change my opinion that haye and his team acted unprofessionally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paintballdan Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 Love some of his quotes here. He's hungry and clearly loves sh1t stirring too. Hope he demolishes them both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBride Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 Maybe Haye should face Johnson. After all neither of them wanted to fight, when there was a giant in the other corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gemmell100 Posted December 13, 2009 Author Share Posted December 13, 2009 Maybe Haye should face Johnson. After all neither of them wanted to fight, when there was a giant in the other corner. we will see about that when haye ko's vitali. did you see how robotic and slow vitali is?? how did haye not want to fight?? nobody in world boxing would accept the bogus contract haye was offered. when haye would have made vitali 5 times the amount of money he would get for fighting these american bum's that he is fighting.. haye is the big draw in the hw division. he is the most lucrative. he is where the money is. these klitschko sisters are gonna get there arse kicked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBride Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Maybe Haye should face Johnson. After all neither of them wanted to fight, when there was a giant in the other corner. how did haye not want to fight?? . Are you honestly trying to say that Haye's performance was a masterclass in aggressive fighting against Valuev then? You could always try actually reading other peoples posts before jumping at them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imasa Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 There are many boxers who are good and not very elegant, but not cease to be good! Valuev is not very elegant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faulks Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Maybe Haye should face Johnson. After all neither of them wanted to fight, when there was a giant in the other corner. how did haye not want to fight?? . Are you honestly trying to say that Haye's performance was a masterclass in aggressive fighting against Valuev then? You could always try actually reading other peoples posts before jumping at them. Far from it, he did fight the fight he needed to, and won the world title because of it. He also broke his hand which wasnt good. I like so many wish he had shown aggression as he had him rocked (check out Bricks sig) in the latter stages and if (which i dont think they will) they have a rematch as is written in the contract i believe Haye will dispose of the beast in a lot better style Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBride Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 For sure he fought the fight he had to Ian, and I dont blame him, but for him to mouth off about the Klitch's is purile to be honest. If he meets Vitali, he will try to do the same as he did against Valuev, for all he may spout beforehand about knockouts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londoner Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 Haye could beat BOTH Klitschkos and he STILL wouldn't inherit their legacies. Like them or loathe them, the guys fight the best available opponents out there as a general rule (with a few exceptions) and they fight regularly, unlike many fighters around now. They have fought twice as many bouts as Haye and have beaten better calibre opponents. They will also make it into the IBHOF as far as i'm concerned whereas i don't think Haye CAN as time isn't on his hands (if he still plans to retire in a year). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Walker Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 Re: Haye Questions the klitschko's Legacy by James Slater - WBA heavyweight champion David Haye is not in the least bit excited about this coming Saturday's WBC heavyweight title fight between champ Vitali Klitschko and unbeaten challenger Kevin Johnson. In fact, if it were not for the fact that he wishes to watch as much of Vitali in action as he can so as to help get himself as adequately prepared as possible for the day when he gets in the ring with the giant, Haye would not even bother tuning in. This is what the 29-year-old Londoner has told the BBC anyway. Haye, who defeated Nikolay Valuev to claim the WBA belt just over a month ago, has also ripped into the elder of the two Klitschko brothers by questioning "Dr Iron Fist's" legacy.. Haye, who is never quiet about his possible rival opponents, wants to fight both Vitali and Ring magazine, IBF and WBO champion Wladmir next year, and it seems he is back to his taunting best, trying once again to talk his way into the fights he has previously pulled out of. Haye, who says he wants to become a legend, says Vitali is leaving it late if he too wants to really leave his mark on the sport. "Vitali is nearly 40 years of age now, and the clock is ticking," Haye said. "There are probably one million dudes in America called Kevin Johnson, and beating one of them doesn't make you an all-time great. Vitali's greatest performance to date is a loss to Lennox Lewis. That's his most memorable fight and the one result on his record that will be remembered in the history books. "The Klitschkos don't care about being great fighters, whereas I do." As formidable and as superb as Vitali Klitschko has looked since his cuts-enforced TKO loss to Lewis, Haye has a point - there aren't a whole lot of other big names on the 38-year-old's record. And most fans seem to think Vitali will have no trouble in handling "King Pin" Johnson on Saturday, but they also ask, as does Haye, "who is Kevin Johnson?" On the other hand, if Vitali is interested in leaving behind a great legacy, who else could he fight right now so as to do so? It's not like Klitschko is avoiding anyone, is it? Haye feels the two brothers have to beat him to prove their dominance, but if one or even both of the two giants did so, would that raise their profile amongst the all-time greats? One thing is sure, a Haye Vs. Vitali fight would have generated a whole lot more interest than this Saturday's Vitali Vs. Johnson affair. Haye laid into the upcoming fight, and called it unappealing. "The Klitschkos may be big in Switzerland, but so are yodellers, and nobody wants to watch them fight," Haye said. "It's [Klitschko-Johnson] one of the most unappealing heavyweight title fights for a long time, and that's saying something. The fact that a title fight between a Ukrainian and an American is being held in Switzerland tells you all you need to know about the appeal of this fight. "Heavyweight title fights should be huge events, not an after-thought in a country most famous for producing Toblerones." It has to be said, some of Haye's comments are pretty darn funny! One thing Haye is, is a sharp and witty person who attracts attention. And there's no doubt about it; a Haye-Klitschko fight would be a huge event - as we know from the massive amounts of tickets his aborted fight with Wladimir shifted last summer. Haye told The BBC he "wants to knock out both Wladimir and Vitali Klitschko next year," and that he doesn't care what order they fall in. Let's hope that if the fight(s) can be made in 2010, Haye will actually be able to go through with them this time. Say what you want, but there is no hotter heavyweight title fight out there than a Haye Vs. Klitschko showdown. http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=22207&more=1 Is Haye available for kid's parties? lol// Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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