Faulks Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 A lot of fans are worried about the prospect of negotiations between Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather coming to nothing. After all Floyd still seemingly wants more than 50% of the purse, and Manny deserves the bigger share in the eyes of most. Far from worrying about what the terms are though the main thing for either fighter if they are truly confident of getting a win should be to make the fight happen. Purses aside, the winner can go on to make more after this as the undisputed number one, and it isn't like either of them are going to be hurting for money by taking a million or two less. The biggest reason Manny should accept whatever terms Floyd wants is simply due to the fact that the fight will get made that much sooner and more easily. People will no doubt say that the champion, fighter of higher rank and bigger pay pew view draw shouldn't have to accept terms laid out by anyone, and normally I would agree, but this is a rather unique set of circumstances. The winner of a fight between Floyd and Pacquiao would instantly have removed the only other obstacle to them being thought of as the best fighter in the world, and would essentially make the loser unmarketable. Floyd tends to hype up a lot of his fights by virtue of the fact that he has never been defeated, and people will always watch an undefeated fighter more readily than someone with a big loss on their record. Sure Pacquiao has his losses, but he doesn't hype his fights and has never been concerned with his record or fan appeal to any great extent. He simply does what he does and the fans tend to follow, more impressed with his humility and style in the ring than what he has to say about a fight before and after it happens. Fighters like Pacquiao therefore will always have a big following, and fighters like Floyd will only tend to attract a lot of fans so long as they are winning and remain undefeated. As a comparison, a lot of fans were claiming Jeff Lacy was the second coming a few years back. Lacy was also the kind of fighter who liked ot talk a big fight and was undefeated going into his fight with Joe Calzaghe. He subsequently lost badly in that fight, and his legions of fans faded into the ether, never to be heard from again. Now I'm not comparing the relatively meager accomplishments of Jeff Lacy to Floyd Mayweather, who has already proved himself to be superb on numerous occasions. However the fact that he doesn't have the nice guy persona or an exciting fighting style when he struggles, means that a similar exodus of fans from the Mayweather supporters bandwagon might be inevitable should be lose to Pacquiao. Perhaps Floyd himself is aware of this, and sees the fight for the massive risk that it is. If he loses, then he essentially loses the majority of his bargaining power as an undefeated fighter, not to mention the appeal that he has to other fighters who currently want to fight him. His defensive style makes great fighters look average, and that isn't something that any fighter needs if they are facing an also ran who has lost to the best fighter in the division. Obviously this theory rests on the idea that Pacquiao would beat Mayweather, which is far from a certainty given his fort-Knox defenses and ring savvy. Floyd does strike me as a man who likes to hedge his bets just in case though, so demanding a bigger purse might be his way of making sure he is rewarded for essentially taking the bigger risk to his future earnings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faulks Posted November 21, 2009 Author Share Posted November 21, 2009 Em yeah ok Mr Writer (sorry didnt link his name) but for your arguement then it can be counter argued with a why Floyd should except Mannys terms.. 45-45 with 10% extra to the winner.. Problem solved. Who needs Arum & Co Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre00 Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Good Article, i enjoyed it, lots of good point/facts, this fight will have a mayor impact, on everyone or anything that has to do with boxing period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshDevilRob Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 I see a 50/50 split and the fight at 147lbs as the fairest for both fighters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faulks Posted November 21, 2009 Author Share Posted November 21, 2009 Agree Rob but will they.... Thats the several mill $$$$$$$ question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapevine241 Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 i dont understand this media bias that pacquiao is so much easier to negotiate with than floyd. seems to me that floyd's last 3 fights were negotiated much easier than pacman's last 3 fights. 50-50 split, 147lbs, 8 oz gloves, 20 ft ring, etc.... thats what i think it should be. but i also think that floyd does have the stronger case as to why he should get +50 split Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leerhodes Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 Mayweather As much as i rate mayweather i think he will price himself out of this fight on purpose.He will not risk his unbeaten record against somebody as dangerous as pacquaio. the main reason he keeps retiring is that he can hand pick who he fights still making millions and keeping his unbeaten record going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 Re: Mayweather As much as i rate mayweather i think he will price himself out of this fight on purpose.He will not risk his unbeaten record against somebody as dangerous as pacquaio. the main reason he keeps retiring is that he can hand pick who he fights still making millions and keeping his unbeaten record going. I agree 100% with this view! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Top Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 i dont understand this media bias that pacquiao is so much easier to negotiate with than floyd. seems to me that floyd's last 3 fights were negotiated much easier than pacman's last 3 fights. 50-50 split, 147lbs, 8 oz gloves, 20 ft ring, etc.... thats what i think it should be. but i also think that floyd does have the stronger case as to why he should get +50 split agreed, as gareth williams said, it took 20 minutes to put together hatton mayweather, where as all we kept hearing was the fights off, fights on ect for hatton manny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bourne Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 i'd like to see a 45-45 split, with the winner getting the extra 10%. 8ounce gloves, 145lbs. in an 18feet ring. fights off when someone doesn't make weight by more then a pound (that's you mayweather) needles to say, i'd like manny to win ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Top Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 i'd like to see a 45-45 split, with the winner getting the extra 10%. 8ounce gloves, 145lbs. in an 18feet ring. fights off when someone doesn't make weight by more then a pound (that's you mayweather) needles to say, i'd like manny to win ;) why 145? why not fight at a proper weight of 147? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylex18 Posted November 28, 2009 Share Posted November 28, 2009 Pac deserves 60/40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Top Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 Pac deserves 60/40 what makes you say that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faulks Posted November 29, 2009 Author Share Posted November 29, 2009 Pac deserves 60/40 No he does not.. Please explain as to why you think that. Just because you like a certain fighter doesnt mean they should get more. They both bring equal ammounts to the tables in this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre00 Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 lol someone who just types Pac deserves "60/40" without explaining his/her point of view, is just trying to increase his/her post amount. I mean when you say something like that, things becomes "hot topic" right away !!!! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBride Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 I fail to see how they both bring equal amounts to the table Ian. One is undefeated, the other isn't. One has won multi titles without making demands on what his opponent weighs, the other hasn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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