WelshDevilRob Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Andre Ward's team call out Joe Calzaghe Trainer, Virgil Hunter: "Joe Calzaghe made the comment that he would have beaten Andre Ward after Andre defeated Carl Froch in the Super Six. We've given Joe the proper respect and acknowledged his legacy for his accomplishments, but if you are going to be minimizing Andre on where he is as a fighter - to make that comment when you are in retirement and sitting somewhere safely in England - if you are going to make that comment, then as a fighter you should come out of retirement and back that comment up." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamasadlittleboy Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Re: Andre Wards team call out Calzaghe Andre Ward's team call out Joe Calzaghe Trainer, Virgil Hunter: "Joe Calzaghe made the comment that he would have beaten Andre Ward after Andre defeated Carl Froch in the Super Six. We've given Joe the proper respect and acknowledged his legacy for his accomplishments, but if you are going to be minimizing Andre on where he is as a fighter - to make that comment when you are in retirement and sitting somewhere safely in England - if you are going to make that comment, then as a fighter you should come out of retirement and back that comment up." Calzaghe not still living in Wales.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ton Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Sticking to where he was born, Scott mlol/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamasadlittleboy Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 ...either that or Virgil wanting his guy to fight a retired fighter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londoner Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 I read this but didn't take it seriously. Isn't Joe 40 years old now? And Ward is 28. But i do wonder why Calzaghe still feels the need to comment on current fighters. I mean i don't think i've ever heard George Foreman talk about how he would beat the Klitschkos or Lewis. He might have though. He must have been asked the question by a journalist and that explains why he answered. He could simply reply "Look, i'm long retired and i think Froch and Ward are both great fighters. Who knows who would have won?" and leave it to fans and historians to make up their own minds. But i think the reason he doesn't just say that is because he still feels as though he hasn't been given the respect he deserves. I've grown to respect Calzaghe more as the years have gone by as i have done with Naseem Hamed. I now pretty much blame all the Americans and Europeans of the 90s/early 2000s for not fighting in equal measure. But i do find it boring hearing Calzaghe talk about who he would have beaten. Leave that to the historians/experts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavpowell Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Yeah, he was being interviewed by a Welsh boxing fan/journalist and was asked about the fight with Froch and then "If you were in the ring with Ward in your prime, how would you go about things?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brooklynbrawler Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 If he's asked the question, I don't see why anyone would have a problem with him answering it honestly? Personally, I think he absolutely pummels Ward, but that was back when he was actually fighting, not now when he hasn't fought in years and is in his forties... I still don't buy into the Ward hype and even being a dirty SOB, he doesn;t have the tools to live with Calzaghe's workrate, because noone did/does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londoner Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 If i interviewed Calzaghe on camera i wouldn't ask the question as i just don't think it's relevant and if i interviewed him away from camera i might ask him what he thinks of current crop and how he would fare against them but i wouldn't print it. I'd leave in what he thinks about them but not how he'd fare against them. The latter topic IMO should only be discussed by historians of the sport. Afterall, a boxer is going to be biased or modest: Biased in that he thinks he would win, or modest in that he'd say "Mannnn, that guy was so good" (Tyson's opinion of Ali, for example). I think that's why James Toney is always asked his opinion of other fighters, because they know what his reaction will be. He thinks he can beat any fighter in history. Personally, i don't care what a fighter thinks of his chances against another because his opinion will always be biased or overly modest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemurphy Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Retired means retired, and anybody who's just hung up the gloves is going to be asked about the guy who follows in their footsteps, I think that questions like that are to be expected to be asked. Hunter is either blind to the fact that most Champions will take themselves over their immediate successors or he's trying to bait Calzaghe into coming back at the age of 40. He needs to just focus on what lies ahead for Ward..................and not what lays behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshDevilRob Posted September 10, 2012 Author Share Posted September 10, 2012 Surely, Wards people aren't that desperate that they need to call out a man several years retired. Calzaghe seems content in retirement and I doubt he would comeback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavpowell Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Here's the interview Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshDevilRob Posted September 10, 2012 Author Share Posted September 10, 2012 Here is the Interview. Calzaghe interviewed by Ciaran Gibbons , at the Cleverly vs Karpency weigh-in.(February, 2012) Ciaran is at all the Welsh shows and has been attending for years as a photographer. Really, nice guy. Was a good day as all the Welsh Stars out and I was there. grin// Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemurphy Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 Surely, Wards people aren't that desperate that they need to call out a man several years retired. Calzaghe seems content in retirement and I doubt he would comeback. I think they're basically "going fishing". Although you can argue that because Calzaghe was in his mid-thirties when he did so, he was basically taking advantage of huge paydays against the resident octogenarians when he took on Hopkins and ESPECIALLY when he followed that up with Jones. At 28, Ward would deserve a bit more criticism if he looked for old names to topple, not just the retired Calzaghe but possibly making his own run at BHOP, but after the run of opponents he's been facing in the S-6 and now Dawson, I think fans would allow him a gimme or two (and for good $$$)before they'd go ballistic. It would be disappointing if he went that route, but it also might be good business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Algarve Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 He wont come back unless, he runs out of cash. End off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemurphy Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 He wont come back unless, he runs out of cash. End off You would think he'd be okay on that count, buts you wonder about the expensive habits that he was putting up his nose not that long ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brooklynbrawler Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 Calzaghe always treasured his unbeaten record. He won't risk that part of his legacy by coming out of retirement when he's a long way past his best. This fight won't happen in a million years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemurphy Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 Calzaghe always treasured his unbeaten record. He won't risk that part of his legacy by coming out of retirement when he's a long way past his best. This fight won't happen in a million years. Brawler- I totally agree that keeping the "0" is very dear to Calzaghe's heart, just as it is with Mayweather, the only thing that would bring him back would be being forced too economically. If Joe's still doing drugs then it speaks to the possibility, but with what he earned and his still being involved in the management end of things with his Dad, it's hard to imagine he's anywhere close to having to return to the ring out of necessity. On the otherhand, Floyd's got a gambling problem (he lost $3 Million last weekend on the Univ of Michigan Football Team) along with his legal problems and seems to be spending as fast as he earns, there's no way he'll last long before risking his "zero" because his Bank Account will read the same within a couple years......we already saw that once when he bailed on DLH 2 and only lasted 18 months. My guess is that Joe's "0" stays pat, Floyd's doesn't have a prayer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brooklynbrawler Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 I think it's all relative. Joe's spending probably tallies up with his earnings, which are significantly lower than Mayweathers. Noone who makes that amount of money should ever be in a position to go broke, but unfortunately, people like Floyd throw it around like confetti (i.e. lighting cigars with $100 dollar bills). He has more than enough money to see him through to the end, but I suspect you're right in that he will ultimately be forced into a Pacquiao bout (or whatever youngster breaks through in the next 12-18 months). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meathead Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 It's the kind of Chinese whispers bullshit that surrounds Boxing. Calzaghe does an innocent enough interview and it gets blown out of all proportion and Ward feels the need to call him out. Problem is in the days of the net, where things can be checked in an instant, it doesn't take much for anyone to see the context with which the Calzaghe comment was made and that in turn reflects badly on Ward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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