gavpowell Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 This has been mentioned in passing before, but I've not seen a dedicated thread for it. The two most popular contenders for greatest heavyweight ever: Who wins? I remain fiercely neutral because I've seen most of Ali's career retrospectively and only a handful of Louis fights here and there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemurphy Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 In his autobiography Sugar Ray, Sugar Ray Robinson, who was good friends with both and also knew a thing or two about boxing grin// said that he had no doubt that Joe Louis would've won, he also thought that with his awkward style, Jersey Joe Walcott would've given Ali fits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshDevilRob Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 In his autobiography Sugar Ray, Sugar Ray Robinson, who was good friends with both and also knew a thing or two about boxing grin// said that he had no doubt that Joe Louis would've won, he also thought that with his awkward style, Jersey Joe Walcott would've given Ali fits. What date did he write the autobiography? Has a big significance if not written after 1980. I know he lived til 1989 but not sure how clear his mind was in later years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemurphy Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 In his autobiography Sugar Ray, Sugar Ray Robinson, who was good friends with both and also knew a thing or two about boxing grin// said that he had no doubt that Joe Louis would've won, he also thought that with his awkward style, Jersey Joe Walcott would've given Ali fits. What date did he write the autobiography? Has a big significance if not written after 1980. I know he lived til 1989 but not sure how clear his mind was in later years. Rob, it came out in 1970, Viking Press. http://www.amazon.com/Sugar-Ray-Robinson/dp/030680574X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1343512688&sr=1-1&keywords=sugar+ray+robinson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamasadlittleboy Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 In his autobiography Sugar Ray, Sugar Ray Robinson, who was good friends with both and also knew a thing or two about boxing grin// said that he had no doubt that Joe Louis would've won, he also thought that with his awkward style, Jersey Joe Walcott would've given Ali fits. What date did he write the autobiography? Has a big significance if not written after 1980. I know he lived til 1989 but not sure how clear his mind was in later years. Rob, it came out in 1970, Viking Press. http://www.amazon.com/Sugar-Ray-Robinson/dp/030680574X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1343512688&sr=1-1&keywords=sugar+ray+robinson ...so after Ali's "perfect best" then?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemurphy Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 In his autobiography Sugar Ray, Sugar Ray Robinson, who was good friends with both and also knew a thing or two about boxing grin// said that he had no doubt that Joe Louis would've won, he also thought that with his awkward style, Jersey Joe Walcott would've given Ali fits. What date did he write the autobiography? Has a big significance if not written after 1980. I know he lived til 1989 but not sure how clear his mind was in later years. Rob, it came out in 1970, Viking Press. http://www.amazon.com/Sugar-Ray-Robinson/dp/030680574X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1343512688&sr=1-1&keywords=sugar+ray+robinson ...so after Ali's "perfect best" then?... Scott- I don't know that I'd call it that, but yeah, it was written post-Zora Folley fight during Ali's exile. SRR recounts a poolside conversation with Ali in which him he told Muhammad he couldn't get out of Army service and he had to step forward when called. Contrary to the story that Ali tells about being confident in his choice, SRR talks about his being confused and unsure on what to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donlevy Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 I agree Walcott would have given Ali fits,but I think Ali at his peak would have beaten Louis quite comfortably because of his foot speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokin Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Louis at some will catch Ali i have always liked Louis in this match-up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamasadlittleboy Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 In his autobiography Sugar Ray, Sugar Ray Robinson, who was good friends with both and also knew a thing or two about boxing grin// said that he had no doubt that Joe Louis would've won, he also thought that with his awkward style, Jersey Joe Walcott would've given Ali fits. What date did he write the autobiography? Has a big significance if not written after 1980. I know he lived til 1989 but not sure how clear his mind was in later years. Rob, it came out in 1970, Viking Press. http://www.amazon.com/Sugar-Ray-Robinson/dp/030680574X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1343512688&sr=1-1&keywords=sugar+ray+robinson ...so after Ali's "perfect best" then?... Scott- I don't know that I'd call it that, but yeah, it was written post-Zora Folley fight during Ali's exile. SRR recounts a poolside conversation with Ali in which him he told Muhammad he couldn't get out of Army service and he had to step forward when called. Contrary to the story that Ali tells about being confident in his choice, SRR talks about his being confused and unsure on what to do. It relates to something Rob said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James McKnight83 Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Re: Ali v Louis Tough one to call. You can make a case for both, but my money would have gone on Ali by points decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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