WelshDevilRob Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 @danrafaelespn: Weights from Cinci: Escobedo 130. But 'The Problem' @AdrienBroner has a problem: 133.5! Not sure if he can lose 3.5. Might be stripped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamasadlittleboy Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Came on here to post the same thing. Broner should have learned from Burns, if you can't make the weight go up...oh that's right, that's called "ducking"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavpowell Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Fantastic, makes a Burns fight somewhat more likely. Seems the guy who said after his last fight he was the CAN MAN, CAN'T anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_budweiser Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Boxing Scene reports that Broner lost his belt on the scales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meathead Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 The fight is off now. Broner agreed to make 140 by this morning only to come on the scales at 143. Escobedos trainer reckons that by fight time Broner could be up at 150+ so they called the fight off. Two things, firstly fair play to Escobedo and his team. Its a bold move when you get a big shot like that. Secondly theres not making weight and theres not making weight. Broner clearly had no intention of being 143 by the morning. I wouldnt go so far as saying he had no intention of making weight in the first instance, although 3.5lbs over was pretty shocking, but the 2nd weigh in he clearly thought that he could get away with it and Escobedos team wouldnt pull out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavpowell Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Two things, firstly fair play to Escobedo and his team. Its a bold move when you get a big shot like that. Apparently, he'll be in line for a shot at the vacant title, so if that's true, it's a pretty shrewd move. Just looked at his twitter feed as a result of espn mentioning his posting f a twinkie picture. last week he said he was addicted to twinkies, posted a picture of a Twix ice cream he "had to buy" and then mentioned he was at McDonald's.No wonder he can't make weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meathead Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 So he didnt have any intention of making weight full stop then. Surely these people realise that you post something up on Twitter and the whole world can see it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamasadlittleboy Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Sounds like the fight is back on, Esco making $400,000 now so well done to him for squeezing them by the bollocks. Broner can't come into the ring more than 148 according to the rumours...but we know what he thinks of weight restrictions... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshDevilRob Posted July 21, 2012 Author Share Posted July 21, 2012 Fight seems to be still on. Which is good. Broner gets less credit for a win and if he ain't trained hard enough is in for an even tougher night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brooklynbrawler Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 It's a bit of a p*ss-take to fail to make the weight because he hasn't even bothered to try and come in on target for his weightclass, then not bother to try and lose a single pound for the second weigh-in...and not only that, after agreeing to a stipulation to weigh no more than 140lbs for the fight day weight in (in order for the fight to even go ahead), he's 3.5lbs over that as well... The guy is ripping the p*ss imo and he could do with Escobedo punching some sense into him. He should have his purse witheld like Castillo got vs Corrales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavpowell Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 I'm glad Esco is making some money, but I wish he'd told them to fuck off - it's time people got real consequences for thisd sort of tyhing, and instead, I suspect Broner still gets a win out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brooklynbrawler Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 I just heard that while he was supposed to be shedding weight for the second weigh-in attempt, he instead fired out to a restaurant for a 3-course meal... Aye, the guy needs a boot up the arse and losing a fraction of his purse isn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonteTS Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 man adrien got sum haters. but damn adrien u gotta make weight bro . i kno adrien got wat it takes to be elite, but he gotta make weight the fight is halfway ruined and sat night fights suck weak ass undercard and flawed main event , dam y cnt showtime have a card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshDevilRob Posted July 22, 2012 Author Share Posted July 22, 2012 Ringnews24 did two reports on this fight. Broner the winner and loser by Jon Campbell Last night on HBO's main event in Cincinnati, Ohio. Adrien 'the problem' Broner (24-0) extended his undefeated record and lost his world title at the same time, beating Vicente Escobedo (26-3) in the fifth round. After the issues surrounding Broner's weight he come out and gave an impressive performance even though admittedly having a 5lb advantage on the night. Despite showing exceptional skills the discipline and maturity Broner shows in the ring makes him a potential future great across multiple weight classes. The one thing which stand out about Broner is his hand speed, I seldom see a boxer with such quick hands. He is very sharp and shows tremendous reflexes. He doesn't get complacent either and holds a tight, high guard the majority of the times. He has a very much pocket defense with his feet planted and using his upper body to evade shots. His stance is wide in order to gain leverage for power shots either to counter or to launch his own attacks. He is sparing with his flurries, only doing so when he sees it as not too much risk. Trading punches when he chooses and not being brought into an exchange. He landed many snappy shots to the body and a whopping 45% power punches. Escobedo, moving down in weight to Super-Featherweight, despite not winning a round against the superior Broner gave a good account of himself. He was attempting to engage in a fight with Broner but struggled to really wear down the defense in order to capitalize. After the sustained punch-taking he slowed down in the fifth, after a good flurry his trainer decide to cut Escobedo's losses and throw the towel in. Read More: http://www.ringnews24.com/index.php/boxing-news/54439-broner-the-winner-and-loser.html#ixzz21NKIoU2V Broner vs Escobedo full show report by Richard Allan McRae You must give HBO a pat on the back for bring boxing to Cincinnati, Ohio. Which just so happens to be the home town of Adrien “The Problem” Broner. Vicente Escobedo has mope problems then just boxing Adrien Broner, he have to deal with a pro Broner crowd who are going to be in a foul mood as their young superstar was unable to make weight yesterday and had to hand over his title. The bout will take place but only Escobedo can win the title. I would not want to in the shoes of Vicente Escobedo tonight, have to box a man who just lost his title on the scales, in from of his home town crowd. This card did not almost happen as their where complaints from the Vicente Escobedo camp, and numbers where moved around in Escobedo favor and the card was on. It was said the deal took place only 5 hours before the card was set to start. And on the undercard will have undefeated Keith Thurman take on Orlando Lora. The following bouts were not televised but ringnews24.com has provided the results; Christopher Pearson 3 (KO 2) -0 -0 vs. Angel Hernandez 14 (KO 11) -10 (KO 5) -1 4 rounds in the middleweight division. Christopher Pearson moves his record up to 4 (KO 3) -0 -0 with a TKO win at 2:08 of the a 2nd round over Angel Hernandez whose record now stands at 14 (KO 11) -11 (KO 6) -1. DeVonte Allen 4 (KO 3) -0 -1 vs. Raeese Aleem 3 (KO 2) -0 -0 Read More: http://www.ringnews24.com/index.php/boxing-news/54441-broner-vs-escobedo-full-show-report.html#ixzz21NKSzwYC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavpowell Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 The one thing which stand out about Broner is his hand speed The one thing that stands out about Broner is he never uses his jab. Even last night, he was sort of limply pawing with it and then just wailing away with hooks when he got anywhere near. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshDevilRob Posted July 22, 2012 Author Share Posted July 22, 2012 The one thing which stand out about Broner is his hand speed The one thing that stands out about Broner is he never uses his jab. Even last night, he was sort of limply pawing with it and then just wailing away with hooks when he got anywhere near. It could be a very effective weapon for him. He needs to start using it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamasadlittleboy Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Broner needs to start watching Terry Norris and stop watching Mayweather Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meathead Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 The one thing that stands out for me with Broner is a bit of a contradiction. His hands are blisteringly quick, that cant be argued against, but his foot, head and body movement are really quite shockingly slow. He can keep his hands low and get his shots off, but he cant get his head out of the way from straight right hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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