WelshDevilRob Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Talking about the klitschkos and retirement: "If they don't fight me this year, I'm going to retire," "If it's not a championship fight, what's the point? It's not so much about the money. If it's not for a championship, there's no sense in me fighting. If there's no gold out there, you're putting yourself into a position to be complacent." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavpowell Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 If there is gold out there, someone wants shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemurphy Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Re: Holyfield to retire at end of year Talking about the klitschkos and retirement: "If they don't fight me this year, I'm going to retire," "If it's not a championship fight, what's the point? It's not so much about the money. If it's not for a championship, there's no sense in me fighting. If there's no gold out there, you're putting yourself into a position to be complacent." I hope he can be trusted to follow through with retiring. I wonder how long it will take for Fans to start thinking of him in terms of his entire career and not just this Don Quixote like quest that has taken up the better part of a decade now. I'm sure by the time Canastota comes calling in June, 2018, then we'll have had time to put the whole 28-year-career in proper perspective, but for those of us here, how long do you think before the mention of his name brings thoughts of Qawi, Bowe, and Tyson.............and NOT Ruiz, Sherwin Williams, Brian Nielson, etc? I suspect we'll need a year or so to fully accept that he's truly hung 'em up, but then I would think the process would be an easy one as we see Holyfield documentaries and the like, remembering the good times. Btw, did you guys see that he's marketing a BBQ Sauce? and tweeting with Mike Tyson about it and his ear? http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/boxing/mike-tyson-evander-holyfield-joke-twitter-infamous-bite-202648735--box.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshDevilRob Posted June 30, 2012 Author Share Posted June 30, 2012 Yeah, some very funny Banter between the two regarding the ear biting, Dave. grin// Hoping that Holyfield does retire - he has nothing to prove and was an all-time Great at his best. I still remember watching his fight with Ricky Parkey on delay on the BBC or ITV back in 1987. Unification fight at Cruiserweight and Holyfield was at his punishing, destructive best. Poor Parkey got a whooping for 3 rounds and was never the same fighter again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meathead Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 He should have retired years ago. For my money hes not been a world class fighter since he fought the series against John Ruiz. Not that Ruiz was a particularly good fighter, but Holyfield still had some of his magic back then. That was 11 years ago now! I hope the last decade and a bit doesnt tarnish his legacy, but I have a feeling it might. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemurphy Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Yeah, some very funny Banter between the two regarding the ear biting, Dave. grin// Hoping that Holyfield does retire - he has nothing to prove and was an all-time Great at his best. I still remember watching his fight with Ricky Parkey on delay on the BBC or ITV back in 1987. Unification fight at Cruiserweight and Holyfield was at his punishing, destructive best. Poor Parkey got a whooping for 3 rounds and was never the same fighter again. Rob- Yeah, I remember that Parkey destruction. Ricky was a decent fighter from Tennessee, probably didn't deserve to hold a world title but several in the early days of the Cruiserweight Division fit that bill, and certainly Holyfield showed him he didn't belong in the Ring with him. To this day, I don't think anyone has come close to matching Evander at Cruiser and I think that's going to rise back to the surface as we focus more on the whole picture and not the elongated tail-end of his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brooklynbrawler Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 For the record, I think he beat Valuev and fairly comfortably at that - infact it was a lot more clearcut than Haye's fight with the big man imo, but he ended up getting jobbed on the cards again... He should have been a heavyweight world champion again then, and I think he could have retired happy then. It was probably that fact - that he came so close to winning the title and should have had the title, that has spurred him on to continue, rightly or wrongly. Funny thing is, the competition is so weak at heavyweight, I would never rule him out of winning a world title again. For example, who would people choose if he fought Povetkin tomorrow? I don't think it would be too lopsided in the Russian's favour...and personally, I think Holyfield would probably beat him, even now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemurphy Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 For the record, I think he beat Valuev and fairly comfortably at that - infact it was a lot more clearcut than Haye's fight with the big man imo, but he ended up getting jobbed on the cards again... He should have been a heavyweight world champion again then, and I think he could have retired happy then. It was probably that fact - that he came so close to winning the title and should have had the title, that has spurred him on to continue, rightly or wrongly. Funny thing is, the competition is so weak at heavyweight, I would never rule him out of winning a world title again. For example, who would people choose if he fought Povetkin tomorrow? I don't think it would be too lopsided in the Russian's favour...and personally, I think Holyfield would probably beat him, even now. I don't think he'd have retired had he beat Valuev, since he was (and still is) deeply in debt. He doesn't need the HW title, he needs the $$ that comes with it, and defenses after Valuev would've been profitable. If he fought Povetkin then he would certainly have a shot, but that titles a disgrace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brooklynbrawler Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 For the record, I think he beat Valuev and fairly comfortably at that - infact it was a lot more clearcut than Haye's fight with the big man imo, but he ended up getting jobbed on the cards again... He should have been a heavyweight world champion again then, and I think he could have retired happy then. It was probably that fact - that he came so close to winning the title and should have had the title, that has spurred him on to continue, rightly or wrongly. Funny thing is, the competition is so weak at heavyweight, I would never rule him out of winning a world title again. For example, who would people choose if he fought Povetkin tomorrow? I don't think it would be too lopsided in the Russian's favour...and personally, I think Holyfield would probably beat him, even now. I don't think he'd have retired had he beat Valuev, since he was (and still is) deeply in debt. He doesn't need the HW title, he needs the $$ that comes with it, and defenses after Valuev would've been profitable. If he fought Povetkin then he would certainly have a shot, but that titles a disgrace. Is he another guy who didn't bother paying his taxes when the money was rolling in I take it? I do feel sorry for guys who have to keep fighting on to milk every last dime they can get out of the sport, just because the money they made when they were at their peak, has dried up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonRingRules Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 I still remember watching his fight with Ricky Parkey on delay on the BBC or ITV back in 1987. Unification fight at Cruiserweight and Holyfield was at his punishing, destructive best. Poor Parkey got a whooping for 3 rounds and was never the same fighter again. ----- I remember Mr. Field taking a beating and holding on for dear life the championship rounds against Foremen who was jobbed. Poor Mr. Field was never the same fighter, becoming more of a clublike fighter than folks care to admit, though still game and exiting until the Ruiz series. Struggled against near every reasonably decent fighter and his power went to zip after Big George rearranged his internals. Take away his much touted Tyson series against the mentally incapacitated man-child in the middle of a 15 year downward spiral of infamy, Mr. Field's record is pretty average with a lot of gifts in his later years to keep his corpse rolling out for the rubes to cheer. The Sherwin Williams fight case in point. Sorry to hear about his personal misfortunes, but l seriously doubt he's really retired. He still thinks he's the uncrowned heavy champ and so do many unfortunates who have kept his delusions alive to the point of compromising his long term health. Another damn shame about all that, but at least he did it his way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavpowell Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Is he another guy who didn't bother paying his taxes when the money was rolling in I take it? No, he's a guy who has so many ex-wives and children to support that he's paying a hundred thousand a month in alimony. Not to mention the amount he spent with BALCO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meathead Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Holyfields money problems relate directly to his religion and his inability to keep his cock in his trousers. He doesnt believe in contraception due to his beliefs and he just cant stop having sex! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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