The_budweiser Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 http://www.boxingnews24.com/wp-content/uploads/dirrell-froch4522.jpg froch v dirrell face off http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/8307667.stm not long now guys untill the start of the super 6 event , i dont know much about dirrell , do any of use guys? might be hard to get a stream of the event but the forum will do its best to provide use all with one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faulks Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Foch wins this one. Dirrell is young and raw but Carl with the Notts crowd wins this by KO... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mofo2 Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 I'm on the Cobra aswell...he's got to much in the tank for Dirrell...but were going against the grain here ian, as most other boxing punters are going for Dirrell to outwork Carl! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapevine241 Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 originally i favored dirrell by decision... but now that i think about it this fight could be very close or even slightly in froch's favor. dirrell is very green, froch is still a little green even though he has a title but at least hes beaten pascal and taylor. though the pascal fight was very close, and taylor lost that fight more than froch won it. so i dunno... maybe froch by decision, interesting fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leerhodes Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 Got to be Froch for me by ko carrying too much power for direll to handle :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mofo2 Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 originally i favored dirrell by decision... but now that i think about it this fight could be very close or even slightly in froch's favor. dirrell is very green, froch is still a little green even though he has a title but at least hes beaten pascal and taylor. though the pascal fight was very close, and taylor lost that fight more than froch won it. so i dunno... maybe froch by decision, interesting fight. I agree it will be a close contest mate, I think the key to the fight is Froch's ability to pull it out of the bag when the chips are down that will be the difference for me tho! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faulks Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 8000 (i think) screaming fans will also help him. Looking forward to this battle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabandmove Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 Froch UD for me. He will need to be a bit sharper early on than he was against Taylor though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironjab Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 carl is going to stop him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabandmove Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 carl is going to stop him I hope so ironjab, it would be good if Carl could make a statement in this fight, I've not heard anyone mention him as a potential winner of the super 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironjab Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 froch is absolutely mad for this tournament, im backing him, i hope he wins it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabandmove Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 He has the potential to win it, I just think Kessler will be too good in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faulks Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 By PHIL BARNETT WBC super-middleweight champion Carl Froch hopes his below-par win over American Jermain Taylor in April has lured his Super Six World Boxing Classic rivals into a false sense of security. Froch defends his title against unbeaten American Andre Dirrell in his Nottingham hometown tonight in the first fight of an exciting six-man tournament. The 32-year-old had to bide his time until December last year before being granted a world title shot, when he beat Canadian Jean Pascal in a thriller to take the vacant belt. After years of frustration, Froch has no time to waste and after making a tough first defence against former undisputed middleweight champion Taylor, enters the Super Six looking to clean up and become the top dog in the 168lb division. Froch beat Taylor the hard way, however, being floored in the third after a slow start with only a late rally and spectacular 12th-round stoppage allowing him to keep his belt. He said: "It's possible they will underestimate me (after Taylor). I can't speak for somebody else, they may be underestimating me or they may look at that and think 'he struggled early on but then out-boxed Taylor for six or seven rounds'. I was ahead on one of the scorecards by five rounds." The guarantee of three high-profile fights – plus possible semi-final and final clashes – ensured Froch was on board with the Super Six tournament from the start. It kicks off with Arthur Abraham's clash against Taylor in Germany before Froch-Dirrell enter the ring in the early hours of tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshDevilRob Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 Graham Houston gives verdict on Froch vs Dirrell “There are fight analysts who wait until the last minute before making up their minds as to who will win. ... They compare styles and pore over records. ... They weigh tangibles and intangibles. They reach an opinion after being gnawed by doubts and nagged by uncertainties.” Those words were written by a New York Times sports columnist named Arthur Daley in 1954, and they reached out to me across the years because I have been weighed down by doubts and uncertainties while trying to formulate an opinion on Saturday’s “Super Six” fight between Carl Froch and Andre Dirrell, which will be televised live on Showtime from Nottingham in the English midlands (starting time is around 2 a.m. on Sunday in the U.K.). This intriguing fight, which will be for Froch’s WBC super middleweight title, pits two undefeated fighters against each other. Froch will have the backing of a packed, roaring hometown crowd. He is seen as the stronger, tougher, heavier handed and more battle-tested of the two men. Dirrell, a U.S. Olympic bronze medallist, is a southpaw with a switch-hitting method, and he is fast, flashy, athletic, naturally gifted and quite a good hitter himself. Froch showed he has the stuff to come through in tough fights against boxers of world-championship calibre in his wins over Jean Pascal and Jermain Taylor. With Dirrell, we just don’t know to what heights he can rise because he has never been involved in what some might call a gut-check type of fight. Maybe he will wilt under the sort of pressure that Froch will be exerting, or perhaps he will scale the heights with a performance of breathtaking excellence. No one can be sure about Dirrell, one way or the other — I know I’m not. There seems to be a bit of bad feeling between the boxers, with Froch apparently taking offence at the stream of derogatory comments supposedly emanating from the challenger. I suspect that many of these provocative quotes were, shall we say, “suggested” by the Dirrell camp’s ace publicist, Fred Sternberg, who has as usual done his job in helping to keep the pot boiling in the weeks leading up to the fight. Froch says he is going to teach Dirrell a lesson by hunting him down and destroying him, but the challenger from Flint, MI, seems not one whit unnerved and told the British fighter: “It’s over!” when they exchanged heated words at a media gathering this week. Dirrell's confidence seems genuine, but unbeaten American fighters have not always held up well under pressure on meeting a more experienced British champion on their opponent’s home turf. British colleagues tell me that Jeff Lacy was looking edgy and unsure in the last few days before his bout with Joe Calzaghe as he sensed the British fighter’s tremendous confidence. Glyn Leach, editor of Boxing Monthly , told me he saw a noticeable change in Gerald McClellan’s originally arrogant attitude when the ill-fated big hitter had his first face-to-face meeting with a ready-to-fight Nigel Benn, while a big, fiercely partisan crowd outdoors in Glasgow and Jim Watt’s solid professionalism were too much of a one-two punch for Olympic gold medallist Howard Davis Jr. to handle. I have not sensed any faltering of resolve on Dirrell’s part. He seems, to me, to be a young man who feels his moment of destiny has arrived. Dirrell demonstrated character and a fighter’s instinct when, dropped by a heavy right hand from a boxer named Alfonso Rocha in the third round of his seventh bout, he rallied to inflict damage in the next round, bringing blood gushing from Rocha’s nose, before going on to pound out a unanimous decision win. There was a shaky moment for Dirrell, too, in the opening round of his bout with Anthony Hanshaw, a former top-calibre amateur. Dirrell seemed to have been dropped — although the referee ruled a slip — but he rallied to demolish his man in five rounds. I consider this to be Dirrell’s most impressive performance because in his last bout Hanshaw had given Roy Jones Jr. a much more competitive bout than suggested by a couple of wide scorecards from the Mississippi judges. So, we know Dirrell can go down, but we also know that he can fight back brilliantly after visiting the canvas. Froch showed he, too, can get up to win when he came back from the first knockdown of his career to outlast and overpower Jermain Taylor in the 12th round last April. There is an almost frightening intensity about Froch, who is dangerous from first bell to last — he is a fighter who will never give up trying to hurt his opponent no matter how badly the fight might seem to be going. Froch can be hit somewhat easily, though, with his hands down, at times recklessly aggressive style. Dirrell isn’t considered a huge hitter but he carries respectable power in his left hand. I consider Froch to be the puncher in the fight, but Dirrell can make the British boxer pay a price for marching straight ahead. The fight with Taylor showed Froch’s strength, power, toughness, tenacity and will to win. It also showed that a fast, sharp boxer can hit him and get away before Froch can reply. I think we can all agree that Dirrell is fast and sharp. He will be looking to hit Froch and not wait for the receipt. If Dirrell can keep doing this, without running into a big punch, he can put himself into a position of ascendancy. Dirrell’s technique can be faulted, a certain lack of smoothness, maybe, a tendency to paw with the right hand, but his speed and athleticism lets him get away with it. I keep thinking back to Froch’s fight with Taylor and how the American boxer seemed able to land punches whenever he wanted. I do accept that Froch went into that fight less than 100 per cent physically after suffering an ankle injury that disrupted his training and then struggling to get over jet lag, and he has admitted that he felt some anxiety in his first big-time U.S. TV fight. I believe that Froch is a better fighter than he seemed to be against Taylor. However, the way Froch was getting hit has to be troubling to his supporters. On Saturday night (early Sunday in Britain) he will be in the ring with a big, super-quick, unorthodox and, I believe, dangerous opponent. Dirrell is just the type of fighter, I feel, who can give Froch a desperately difficult evening. Froch was helped enormously in the fight with Taylor by the American boxer’s late-rounds weariness. Dirrell trained for this fight at high altitude at Big Bear Mountain in California, he is probably in the finest condition he has ever been in, and I don’t see him as the type who will run out of gas the way that Taylor did. I do think that Dirrell will have moments of crisis in this fight, but I think he can come through them. I can see Dirrell frustrating Froch, hitting and not getting hit, and freewheeling his way to an upset win on points. www.fightwriter.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabandmove Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 How long do the fighters have between bouts in the super 6? Is wear and tear likely to have any affect on the outcomes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faulks Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 dont quote me on this but its a 2 year tourny isnt it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabandmove Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 I just wondered if one of them got injured and was out for 8 or 9 months how it might affect the layout, or if someone got a bad cut? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshDevilRob Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 I think the next round of fights are in April/March. I saw a list of the match-ups but they are subject to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faulks Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 Just wacked a £5 on Froch 10 round Oh and abraham as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nanette Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 Thing this one will be an easy win for the USA :-) Froch just has to little boxing ability and might very well get koed early Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faulks Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 Mmmm i just cant see it Nanette, late KO by the Cobra im afraid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nanette Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 ianf69 :-) I hope Froch will win actually but cant see him knocking out dirrell ! The guy has incredible amateur background and Froch was behind to Taylor on points !! So Dirrell should be able to do what Taylor did without getting knocked out. But will be great to see who is right :-) I hope you are :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faulks Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 ianf69 :-) I hope Froch will win actually but cant see him knocking out dirrell ! The guy has incredible amateur background and Froch was behind to Taylor on points !! So Dirrell should be able to do what Taylor did without getting knocked out. But will be great to see who is right :-) I hope you are :-) so do i mate, round ten with a bit of luck :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayrdonn Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 froch to win on points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_budweiser Posted October 18, 2009 Author Share Posted October 18, 2009 froch to win on points the fights already happened will you please stop with ur 2/3 word answers to get access to the private sections Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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