Big Train Wreck September 23, Wembley@~Joe Joyce Rematch of Zhiel Zang

[LondonRingRules]

--- Megaliths Joyce and Zhang are colliding @ Wembley this Saturday been floating under the wire since the rematch was announced. 

Dunno if Joyce made any changes after seemingly a bad southpaw boxing plan led to his beating.

Brits vs China, so who you got?

[Bear Hugger]

Joyce has never been good at avoiding a punch. He relies on his ability to take a punch and wears down his opponent. If he comes in the same as last time, he'll lose again.

[Ledhed1]

Don't expect Zhang to come in as a shadow of himself as happened in a most recent rematch, i.e. Liam Smith. Don't see Joyce being able to figure out the Zhang conundrum. Repeat of the first fight.

[LondonRingRules]

- - Joyce something of an accomplished artist(painter) that would imply a high intelligence, but it would seem his trainer did not train him for a southpaw. 

Any word on his trainer and training?

I personally think he can beat Zhang who may have had his one off day in the sun last bout.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Cableaddict]

I can understand Zhang being a little off in his last fight.

After getting robbed vs Hrgovic,  it must have been hard to keep up an elite-level training regimen.

[WelshDevilRob]

On 9/19/2023 at 4:09 PM, LondonRingRules said:

- - Joyce something of an accomplished artist(painter) that would imply a high intelligence, but it would seem his trainer did not train him for a southpaw. 

Any word on his trainer and training?

I personally think he can beat Zhang who may have had his one off day in the sun last bout.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ismael Salas is Joe Joyce's trainer.

 

[WelshDevilRob]

I'm struggling to pick a winner on this due to several things.

Both men are old - Zhang is 40, Joyce is 38.  I don't recall any heavyweight still being in their prime at these ages. I know some point at the modern nutrition these days but Zhang doesn't strike me as someone whose in that lifestyle. No advantage here, as both old and still World Level.

Unknowns: Has Zhang been over celebrating the victory/chinese fame or has it pushed him on, as he's close to even bigger fights? Was Joe Joyce starting to believe the hype before the first fight? He was becoming more vocal, which was fine, but was it a sign that he was starting to believe that 'The Juggernaut' could just plow through opponents.

Joyce boxed more against Dubois, so can do it. But, his defense needs sorting out. He probably should've stayed with Adam Booth, who would've added to his game over time.  A Zhang win could bag him a fight against Joshua in December or Fury early next year. A Joyce win puts him back as a mandatory for Usyk (same applies to ZZ). Plenty of big money options for both.

Am glad it's not PPV in the UK, so will be home and watching. I don't know who wins and those are the live fights that I like.

[Cableaddict]

^  Excellent analysis.    👍