WelshDevilRob Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 This Saturday at T-Mobile Arena, Las Vegas, Errol Spence (28-0, 22 KOs) vs Teremce Crawford (39-0, 30 KOs). All four welterweight belts on the line. Who takes this one? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ledhed1 Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 I'm leaning Crawford here. It's razor close when comparing but I perceive Crawford has that extra "dog" quality that'll spell the difference. We're likely to see this matchup twice if not three times. Buckle up! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mofo2 Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 It surprises me how few people are backing Crawford, personally I cannot see anything else but a win for the lad, he is so underrated in my opinion! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonRingRules Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 --- Craw the slight fav in the betting, likely because Spence rusty and off balance in his comeback fight from near death Ferrari tumble. I would've picked Spence before, but now 50/50. Sparring with l'l floydy gives him the boxing edge. Craw's trainer BoMac pushing 450lbs may expire in the fight excitement. He's put on 200lb easy in just the last year when he was already fat. Hope for the best, but don't really believe Craw at age 35 is really at his best anymore either. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshDevilRob Posted July 28, 2023 Author Share Posted July 28, 2023 On 7/26/2023 at 6:50 PM, mofo2 said: It surprises me how few people are backing Crawford, personally I cannot see anything else but a win for the lad, he is so underrated in my opinion! All I'm seeing is people picking Crawford. Even ran a Poll and he's way infront. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mofo2 Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 11 hours ago, WelshDevilRob said: All I'm seeing is people picking Crawford. Even ran a Poll and he's way infront. Really?? What ive seen the pundits are split, with fans making the most noise giving Crawford a limited chance, the man is P4P for me, he is so undervalued its embarrassing, he would have been a success in any era. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshDevilRob Posted July 28, 2023 Author Share Posted July 28, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, mofo2 said: Really?? What ive seen the pundits are split, with fans making the most noise giving Crawford a limited chance, the man is P4P for me, he is so undervalued its embarrassing, he would have been a success in any era. Canelo, Mike Tyson picking Crawford. What pundits are picking Spence? Edited July 28, 2023 by WelshDevilRob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cableaddict Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 Both these guys are a little past their prime, so it's hard to pick. 3 years ago, it would be Crawford all day long, but his is a more athletic and energetic style, which is more susceptible to age than Spence's steamroller offense. I still say Sweet T via KO, but I wouldn't actually bet on it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonRingRules Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 On 7/28/2023 at 9:16 AM, mofo2 said: Really?? What ive seen the pundits are split, with fans making the most noise giving Crawford a limited chance, the man is P4P for me, he is so undervalued its embarrassing, he would have been a success in any era. --- Spence would be a success in any era as well. Crawford is undervalued because his limited social IQ don't understand that he doesn't tick the public boxes like Spence does who used to be seen as something of a savior, the whole reason Manny wanted to fight him and not Craw. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonRingRules Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 13 hours ago, Cableaddict said: Both these guys are a little past their prime, so it's hard to pick. 3 years ago, it would be Crawford all day long, but his is a more athletic and energetic style, which is more susceptible to age than Spence's steamroller offense. I still say Sweet T via KO, but I wouldn't actually bet on it. --- Now is when Craw has his best chance vs a rusty, damaged Spence who would've ruined him 3 years ago, yet you won't bet on Craw at his best opportunity? Talk about damning with faint praise!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshDevilRob Posted July 29, 2023 Author Share Posted July 29, 2023 UK coverage on TNT PPV starts at Midnight. US coverage on Showtime PPV starts 20:00PM EST/17:00PM PST Shawn Porter says Errol Spence Jr vs Terence Crawford is too close to call https://www.ringnews24.com/2023/07/28/shawn-porter-says-errol-spence-jr-vs-terence-crawford-is-too-close-to-call/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshDevilRob Posted July 29, 2023 Author Share Posted July 29, 2023 On 7/28/2023 at 3:16 PM, mofo2 said: Really?? What ive seen the pundits are split, with fans making the most noise giving Crawford a limited chance, the man is P4P for me, he is so undervalued its embarrassing, he would have been a success in any era. Just took this picture, from my group on FB. Just pure hardcore fans. By my maths, they're picking Crawford by a landslide. Where are you getting your opinions from? Cleaners and Binmen? 😉 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mofo2 Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 35 minutes ago, WelshDevilRob said: Just took this picture, from my group on FB. Just pure hardcore fans. By my maths, they're picking Crawford by a landslide. Where are you getting your opinions from? Cleaners and Binmen? 😉 I must be on the wrong pages 😁 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cableaddict Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 Wowza ! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mofo2 Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 12 hours ago, Cableaddict said: Wowza ! That just about sums it up perfectly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshDevilRob Posted July 30, 2023 Author Share Posted July 30, 2023 That was class. I don't see any need for a rematch, at welterweight. Spence should move up and see how it goes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonRingRules Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 - - Spence has said he's ready for the rematch at 154. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshDevilRob Posted August 1, 2023 Author Share Posted August 1, 2023 13 hours ago, LondonRingRules said: - - Spence has said he's ready for the rematch at 154. He still ain't ready for the 1st fight 😀 Lot of excuses going around from his fans. Interesting that a lot have suggested that Spence entered the ring looking high? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robprosser Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 4 hours ago, WelshDevilRob said: He still ain't ready for the 1st fight 😀 Lot of excuses going around from his fans. Interesting that a lot have suggested that Spence entered the ring looking high? That would account for him fighting like he was in a daze. As good as Crawford was Spence was awful. Slow, lethargic and no punch resistance. The first knockdown was from a solid jab. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonRingRules Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 --- Only seen the KD highlights, but he started looking out of sorts and off balance like the Ugas fight. Clearly he's lost something over these 3 years of the post crash along with rust accruing. Haymon has paid him a fortune, so take the rematch if he still wants it and retire. His speech is almost unintelligible. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selij Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 (edited) That "soft, southern drawl" has turned in to brain damage and punch drunk syndrome, something clearly not right with Urrrrrl's speech and head - ballooned from the first KD. Obv legacy damage from the stupid car crash. He should forget the rematch and bow out of the game, but I fear he (sadly) won't. The fatter the trainer, the better the boxer I think Bud should step up again and fill both of the Charlos in. What a pair of swervers / duckers they are. Edited August 1, 2023 by selij 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonRingRules Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 --- The 154 Charlo is supposed to be signed to fight Canelo, and the 160 version currently has a broken nail or maybe a hemorrhoid or both and can't fight anyone, so Bud better give in to be the lesser % or they won't consider him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selij Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 Plant had a swing at Canelo as well as Charlo, mussta been on the Columbian marching powda. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mofo2 Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 On 8/1/2023 at 4:56 AM, WelshDevilRob said: He still ain't ready for the 1st fight 😀 Lot of excuses going around from his fans. Interesting that a lot have suggested that Spence entered the ring looking high? This was arguably the most complete systematic beatdown of a fighter ive ever seen, taking into consideration the quality and status of both of men this shouldnt have happened, but by the end of the 7th round Spence's corner should have thrown the towel in, I was seriously worried was going to get hurt, there is no value in a rematch because the gulf in class was immeasurable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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