Loaded_Gloves Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 BoxNation Full Details: Warren Part of UK Blockbuster By Terence Dooley After days of Tweets, leaks and guesswork over the future of BoxNation, a Sky TV channel that was launched in the summer and currently shows reruns of Frank Warren-promoted bouts, BoxingScene.com can reveal the details of channel 456’s fall output, subscription cost and the full scope of their commitment to boxing. Warren, Boxing Channel Media and Zoom Communications are behind the venture; it will show its first live bill on September 30th when Liam Walsh defends his Commonwealth super-featherweight title against Paul Appleby at London’s York Hall. "This is what all boxing fans have been waiting for - a dedicated channel, 100% percent committed to showing the best fights from around the world,” declared Warren. “It’s a big challenge in my career, but I’m really excited by BoxNation and it takes me back to my early years when I was at ITV doing a show a week.” His sons, Francis and George, are at the helm of Queensberry Promotions; they have put together the Walsh-Appleby bill. “We are very proud that the first ever live show on BoxNation will be from Queensberry Promotions,” stated Francis. “We are looking forward to a long standing relationship with BoxNation." Their will be two live promotions each week featuring action from the UK and abroad, amateur tournaments will also be a staple of their content, starting with the World Amateur Championships and the Royal Albert Hall Cup, Steve Bunce’s anarchic magazine show, Buncey’s Boxing Hour, will also return to our screens, with some episodes broadcast from London’s Planet Hollywood venue, there are to be daily news updates and archive fights featuring Muhammad Ali, Mike Tyson and Sugar Ray Leonard as well as reruns of other contests. There will also be a commitment to the MMA here in the UK and abroad. Warren has joined forced with Sauerland Promotions for a three-year deal that includes the WBO 168lb title battle between Robert Stieglitz and Mikkel Kessler on November 5th plus other bouts from the continent. Bunce will be joined by boxing regulars Jim Rosenthal, the face and voice of ITV’s Big Fight Live for many years, Paul Dempsey, Sky’s former boxing anchorman, and experienced journalist John Rawling. Free-to-air for the first few months, the channel will then switch to a subscription, £10 per month, format rather than the pay-per-event model that some had suspected would be implemented. September’s Walsh-Appleby fight will be followed by an amateur showdown between the UK Combined Services and US Armed Services on October 7th, the show comes from the Royal Albert Hall, before heading to the Liverpool ECHO Arena on October 15th for Nathan Cleverly WBO light-heavyweight title defence against Tony Bellew, a bill that will be topped by a late night trip to Los Angeles for the WBC 175lb showdown between Bernard Hopkins and Chad Dawson. Rob Norton headlines the following week, defending his British cruiserweight title at the York Hall, Norton’s defence will be packaged with a live broadcast of the mooted cruiserweight unification bout between WBC boss Marco Huck and WBO titlist Krzysztof Wlodarczyk. Frankie Gavin closes out the month, taking on WBO number four ranked contender Diego Gabriel Chaves in a WBO Inter-Continental title defence on October 28th. November kicks off with Ricky Burns and Michael Katsidis looking horns for the Interim WBO lightweight title, the clash comes live from Wembley on Saturday November 5th and is supported by George Groves’ British super-middleweight title defence against former holder Paul Smith and Ryan Walsh’s first title shot, a meeting with Liam Richard for the vacant English super-bantamweight belt. Once the dust settles on that one, the channel will switch to Denmark for the aforementioned Stieglitz-Kessler clash. Kessler is seeking to get back amongst the titles after a mixed Super Six tournament that saw the Dane lose to Andre Ward before bouncing back with a win over Carl Froch. November 18th features the return of newly minted British and Commonwealth featherweight holder Lee Selby. The Welshman looked top drawer in his shocking victory over the highly regarded Stephen Smith at Liverpool’s Olympia on Saturday night, he takes on Scotland’s tough, uncompromising John Simpson, the York Hall once again the venue. Richard Brooke will chair BoxNation; Simon Green, their CEO, has two decades of experience in boxing and believes that the channel will help develop British talent as well as delivering international fights; Richard Schaefer, Golden Boy CEO, is also onboard. “We are very pleased to start working with BoxNation and bring some of the compelling boxing content to the British Fight Fans,” stated Schaefer. “The first one being the historic showdown of Bernard Hopkins against Chad Dawson. This fight illustrates the commitment BoxNation has to boxing.” The final word goes to ITV legend and fan favorite Jim Rosenthal. “This a truly exciting new venture and I’m delighted that I’ll be involved with BoxNation,” enthused Jim. “Not only am I passionate about presenting at boxing events, but I’m also a big fan of the sport and I think this is great news for boxing fans everywhere.” Forum reaction to the news has been mixed, with some declaring that they will not pay for the channel despite an absence of the full launch and schedule details. Many British fans, this writer included, shell out for ESPN and Premier Sports, bemoaned the loss of Bunce and Setanta a couple of years ago and have asked for a dedicated boxing channel. News of Warren’s venture has been greeted with one or two groans, which is strange considering the often-expressed need for further TV commitment to the sport. At £10 a month the subscription fee is not a back breaker. There looks to be a lot of boxing on BoxNation if the early pace is maintained and with one or two declaring in the past that Setanta was worth the money purely for Buncey alone it makes one wonder if the quibbles over BoxNation relate directly to the previously ‘through a glass darkly’ description of what is on offer or are directed towards Warren himself. In the final analysis, the channel will live and die on its commitment to the sport, with punters deciding if the amount of shows and features justifies the monthly commitment. Certainly, it looks to be better value than PPV, has greater scope than Premier Sports and ESPN as well as catering to the need for both UK and International bills, with those who do subscribe likely to enjoy a number of boxing marathons over the coming season. May we live in interesting times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loaded_Gloves Posted September 22, 2011 Author Share Posted September 22, 2011 Re: BoxNation Full Details: Warren Part of UK Blockbuster Assuming that they deliver good content, then I would hope that this turns out a success. Free-to-air television just don't care much about boxing unfortunately. With a Sky Sports subscription, a lot of the money is going to Premier League football or whatever else. They haven't been very committed to international boxing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheelchair Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 If Warren's behind it then the usual crap cards and fighters dropping out of others is what you'll be paying for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irondave85 Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 If Warren's behind it then the usual crap cards and fighters dropping out of others is what you'll be paying for. Yeah, but we'll also be getting shows from Germany and America. I like the sound of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ko Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 I think its great. I will pay for this. Really pleased Bunceys boxing hour is back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonrod Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 So up until Christmas it's free!!!!! Great stuff. Just seen some of the free fights on BoxNation. The first free fight is on 30th September - Liam Walsh v Paul Appleby. Then we go Nathan Cleverly v Tony Bellew, plus the DeGale Euro fight on the 15th October. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loaded_Gloves Posted September 27, 2011 Author Share Posted September 27, 2011 First month looks pretty good: Coming up on BoxNation in October are the following big fights LIVE and EXCLUSIVE: Friday 30th September Commonwealth Super-Featherweight Championship: Liam Walsh v Paul Appleby Wednesday 5-8th October World Amateur Championships from Baku, Azerbaijan Saturday 1st October WBA & IBF World Cruiserweight Championship: Steve Cunningham v Pablo Hernandez Friday 7th October Amateur Boxing - The Royal Albert Hall Cup: UK Combined Services v US Armed Forces Saturday 15th October From the Liverpool Echo Arena: WBO World Light-Heavyweight Championship: Nathan Cleverly v Tony Bellew European & WBO Intercontinental Super-Middleweight Championship: Piotr Wilczewski v James DeGale From the Staples Centre, LA, USA: The WBC World Light-Heavyweight Championship: Bernard Hopkins v Chad Dawson Friday 21st October British Cruiserweight Championship: Robert Norton v Leon Williams Saturday 22nd October WBO & WBC World Cruiserweight Championship: Marco Huck v Krystof Wlodarczk Friday 28th October WBO Intercontinental Welterweight Championship Frankie Gavin v Diego Gabriel Scaves http://www.frankwarren.tv/index.php/news/fwtv-news/latest-news/1384-walsh-trainer-everett-backs-him-to-become-world-champion.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_budweiser Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Box Nation interviews (Groves,Bellew,Earl,Francis Warren) http://www.ringnews24boxingforum.com/viewforum.php?f=32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ko Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 First night of boxing was brillant, 4 fights were shown and they were all good. Great main event Walsh vs Appleby was British FOTY contender. I liked the team with Buncey and Keys previewing and John Rawling on commentary with Enzo Mac. Few technical problems but for the first night it was brillant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheelchair Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 Problem is, I don't think the channel will last. Remember Setanta? It was around the same price, on every day and showed many different sports. Boxnation can't compete with that level of variety, and look what happened to Setanta. Once it goes subscription, I give it six months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshDevilRob Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 Sounds very good. Think I will invest in a dish. Will it also be available via Virgin or top up TV? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamasadlittleboy Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 Great opening show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loaded_Gloves Posted October 1, 2011 Author Share Posted October 1, 2011 Problem is, I don't think the channel will last. Remember Setanta? It was around the same price, on every day and showed many different sports. Boxnation can't compete with that level of variety, and look what happened to Setanta. Setanta had to pay I think into the hundreds of millions for Premier League football. Box nation isn't going to have that same issue. It's reported that Warren: "hopes for up to 100,000 subscribers" http://www.sportinglife.com/boxing/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=boxing/11/09/22/BOXING_Warren_Nightlead.html&BID=543 Setanta had over a million subscribers by comparison. So different number of subscribers, but also probably very different costs involved. Maybe it works? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamasadlittleboy Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 It really depends on how what fights they are getting and for how much. Will they be offering "low ball" money for things like Hernandez v Cunningham tonight hoping that the promotions and what not will think "this is better than nothing, and we may get our man some exposure" or will they be paying over the odds to try and get the international cards? If they can get the decent cards for not much I don't see why they can't survive, EVERYONE in the sport wants more exposure for their fighters and are likely to try and move towards getting their mans name out there even if it's at a loss/small profit early on (Fury fighting on Free to Air TV is a great example) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loaded_Gloves Posted October 1, 2011 Author Share Posted October 1, 2011 Sounds very good. Think I will invest in a dish. Will it also be available via Virgin or top up TV? With regard to Virgin: "the official line at the moment is that we are currently in negotiations to brings this channel to our platform, but at the moment we don't have a time frame or estimate as to when this will be completed." http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/TV/Box-Nation/td-p/736267/page/2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meathead Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 I like it. I think Frank Warren made a massive mistake putting his face out there as the public face of the channel seeing as he isnt running it and, from what I understand, is only a minority shareholder in the business. He divides opinion too much. It should have been someone else so as to make it look easier for them to negotiate deals with other UK promoters. I think it will be a success. Setanta built its following with Boxing, then screwed it up trying to buy rights to things they couldnt afford. Its often forgotten that Setanta actually cut its teeth in the UK with the Hopkins/Eastman PPV, which was a success for them. From what I understand they have already secured longish term deals with Sauerland and GBP, so no need to negotiate on a fight by fight basis. If they need 100,000 subs, from a Sky platform base of 10m, Virgin (dont know the number but a couple of million at a guess?) and I have also read they are looking to get on the freeview platform asap, I think its very achievable. I hope its a success. Already this weekend we have seen a fight that wouldnt have got on UK TV otherwise (Cunnigham/Hernandez). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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