iamasadlittleboy Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 Professional boxer Joe Cortez boxed professionally between 1962 and 1970 He ran up a professional record of 10-1 (1) He would score his only KO on his debut (stopping Tony Salgado) His only loss came to George Foster 30% of his wins (3 out of 10) came against Paul Sebastian Cortez would take almost 4 years out of the ring (March 1966 to February 1970) between his final 2 fights Cortez the Judge Joe Cortez had judged 8 fights as a professional judge between 1982 and 1989 Of those 8 fights 6 have been world title fights (including William Lee v Marvin Hagler, Wilford Scypion v Marvin Hagler and Roberto Duran v Sugar Ray Leonard III) Cortez hasn't judged a fight since 1989 (Duran v Leonard III) He was the dissenting judge in Holmes v Spinks II (scoring it 144-141 to Holmes) Cortez the referee Cortez has been the referee in 758 professional bouts since 1980 (Bika v Mendy is on his record twice on boxrec) His 15th fight as a referee was his first world title fight (Aaron Pryor v Miguel Montilla), 26 months after his first Only DQ's on his record are: Bika v Mendy* Soto v Lorenzo* Johnson v Ruiz Paez v Ramos* Bramble v Mayweather He also referee in the controversial Kostya Tszyu vs. Leonardo Mas, Marlon Starling vs. Tomas Molina... and was a scoring referee in the Gerrie Coetzee vs. Renaldo Snipes fights *denotes DQ from hitting a downed opponent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Galveston Giant Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 Great facts, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheelchair Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 You omitted the section, Cortez the Cretin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapevine241 Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 thx for the facts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemurphy Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 I first recall Joe working as Ref when watching John Mugabi vs James "Hard Rock" Green on NBC (he had a mustache at the time, it's kind of funny to look back at it now). As bad as he seems now, there was a time during the Ninties when I considered him among the best, but everytime I see him now he's often confused or indecisive. I remember him DQ'ing Kirk Johnson when John Ruiz insisted on rolling on the Canvas and complaining of low blows, but the low point was Lorenzo-Soto, when he left Humberto Soto bleeding on the canvas and then went over and covered his microphone while talking to the Nevada Commissioner on what to do next. The other night he made the right call with the one pt deduction, but once again seemed confused when re-starting the fight..........I think it's time for Joe to hang up the bow-tie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemurphy Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 I recall a tragedy a few years ago when Joe's daughter was in a car accident and left paralyzed and I believe they sued the Tire Manufacturer. I will try to dig up the details again, but at the time I thought he was still one of the top Refs (shows how long ago it's been) and was very sad. It's kind of why I want to see him hang up the bowtie, while I can still remember a time when I was actually happy to hear that Joe was assigned to a fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamasadlittleboy Posted September 22, 2011 Author Share Posted September 22, 2011 Not think it's funny that he's not judged a fight since the 1980's? O_o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavpowell Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 Maybe he doesn't want to judge fights anymore, maybe he prefers refereeing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAZZ-MCFC Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 Not think it's funny that he's not judged a fight since the 1980's? O_o No. The promoters and GB's obviously realised he's a useless judge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamasadlittleboy Posted September 22, 2011 Author Share Posted September 22, 2011 Not think it's funny that he's not judged a fight since the 1980's? O_o No. The promoters and GB's obviously realised he's a useless judge. They didn't realise he was a useless referee as well?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAZZ-MCFC Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 Not think it's funny that he's not judged a fight since the 1980's? O_o No. The promoters and GB's obviously realised he's a useless judge. They didn't realise he was a useless referee as well?... Touche. Maybe they just like to see a bit of comedy from time to time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshDevilRob Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 The guys past it and needs to retire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemurphy Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 The guys past it and needs to retire. Agreed, Rob. I mean, this was not that hard a situation to handle correctly and he flubbed it, he's just had too many moments of indecision recently, and nothing is worse than a confused Ref. He needs to get out while some of us can still remember him at his best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonrod Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 The guys past it and needs to retire. Agreed, Rob. I mean, this was not that hard a situation to handle correctly and he flubbed it, he's just had too many moments of indecision recently, and nothing is worse than a confused Ref. He needs to get out while some of us can still remember him at his best. Without hesitation - I agree. The man has had his time in the sun (a while a go now admittedly), but needs to retire before someone gets seriously hurt. Boxing is obviously a dangerous game, the last thing fighters need is a dithering slow old Ref losing control of what should be routine situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemurphy Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 The guys past it and needs to retire. Agreed, Rob. I mean, this was not that hard a situation to handle correctly and he flubbed it, he's just had too many moments of indecision recently, and nothing is worse than a confused Ref. He needs to get out while some of us can still remember him at his best. Without hesitation - I agree. The man has had his time in the sun (a while a go now admittedly), but needs to retire before someone gets seriously hurt. Boxing is obviously a dangerous game, the last thing fighters need is a dithering slow old Ref losing control of what should be routine situations. Well said. This isn't one of the other sports where a mistake merely costs one team a goal or a victory, we are dealing with mens lives here. It'd be nice if Joe could exit and save some face, but if they have to just out-and-out suspend him to get him to "get the message" then so be it. Do whatever it takes, don't let the postscript on his career be a fatality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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