The Dynamic Hispanic Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 http://payload.cargocollective.com/1/2/68798/1956476/prt_200x280_1315208127.png If Burns-Broner folds, Perez not the proxy Mark Ortega, lead writer, leave-it-in-the-ring.com In a piece by RingTV.com's Lem Satterfield today, it was reported that reigning WBO super featherweight champion Ricky Burns is having trouble coming down to the 130 pound limit and is being advised by his team to relinquish his title and move up to 135 pounds rather than fight Adrien Broner on HBO in the undefeated fighter's hometown of Cincinnati later this year. The piece quoted Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaeffer as saying he talked to the WBO and was told if Burns is stripped, a fight between Broner and Golden Boy stablemate and fellow undefeated charge Eloy Perez would be sanctioned for the vacant title. Photo courtesy of Stephanie Trapp. CargoCollective.com/TrappFotosAccording to both Golden Boy Promotions' Robert Diaz as well as Kathy and Sam Garcia of Garcia Boxing, who manage and train Perez, that November 26th date is a definite no-go on their front. “Here's the problem. There's no way we can fight November 26th because my sister is getting married, so that is out of the question. If they were to make that fight in neutral ground, Vegas or California, something like that, we would take it down the road,” said Perez trainer and co-manager Sam Garcia to Leave It In The Ring over the phone today. Click here to read the rest... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavpowell Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Frank's losing his touch - the fight isn't due to be cancelled for weeks yet. If he goes to lightweight, it's all over - the division is jammed with talent and they'll all beat him except maybe Mitchell - another Warren fighter. You heard it here first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemurphy Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 I agree with Gav, Burns is the type of fighter where I don't think he'd be served well by jumping to a higher weight class, even if JLW to LW is a small step. If the field there was extremely weak, then he could get by with it, but such doesn't appear to be the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ko Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 This was just a smoke screen imo. Warren acting like they wanted Broner but now its off. Burns wants the big fights, but Warren doesnt but he is the promoter and looking to make money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheelchair Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 I'm amazed Warren isn't getting Burns to rematch Nicky 'Me Back's Gone Again' Cook! Was an amazing fight for a few seconds.... mlol/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAZZ-MCFC Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 I'm amazed Warren isn't getting Burns to rematch Nicky 'Me Back's Gone Again' Cook! Was an amazing fight for a few seconds.... mlol/ Ricky Burns is so powerful, he can prolapse a disc with a single blow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skav Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 It's a clever tactic to move Burns up. Warren knew Broner was too much for him and wants to make more money from Burns by giving him another title. Boxing's quite sad today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavpowell Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 It's a clever tactic to move Burns up. Warren knew Broner was too much for him and wants to make more money from Burns by giving him another title. Boxing's quite sad today. Well it would be a clever tactic but the lightweight division has everybody in it: Marquez has the WBO and WBA Guerrero and Rios are interim Miggy Vazquez(thank you Scott) is IBF champ Now OK, the WBC is vacant, but you've got Gamboa, Linares, Katsidis, Soto and Kevin Mitchell all in the mix. Mitchell is the obvious choice but doesn't yield a proper title. Burns would be better at superfeather trying to run the division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAZZ-MCFC Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 It's a clever tactic to move Burns up. Warren knew Broner was too much for him and wants to make more money from Burns by giving him another title. Boxing's quite sad today. Well it would be a clever tactic but the lightweight division has everybody in it: Marquez has the WBO and WBA Guerrero and Rios are interim Miggy Vazquez(thank you Scott) is IBF champ Now OK, the WBC is vacant, but you've got Gamboa, Linares, Katsidis, Soto and Kevin Mitchell all in the mix. Mitchell is the obvious choice but doesn't yield a proper title. Burns would be better at superfeather trying to run the division. Gamboa? He's well out of the picture for now, he's still fighting at feather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavpowell Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Gamboa? He's well out of the picture for now, he's still fighting at feather. He's third in the WBC lightweight rankings so I assumed he must have stated his intention tio jump up ?// Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAZZ-MCFC Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Gamboa? He's well out of the picture for now, he's still fighting at feather. He's third in the WBC lightweight rankings so I assumed he must have stated his intention tio jump up ?// Strange. His next fight is at feather, Boxrec still have him ranked number 2 at feather and he's still chasing a fight with Chris John so not sure where that's come from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littleman370 Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Gamboa? He's well out of the picture for now, he's still fighting at feather. He's third in the WBC lightweight rankings so I assumed he must have stated his intention tio jump up ?// well i hear if he knocks out ponce this weekend he'll win the vacant WBC lightweight belt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAZZ-MCFC Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Gamboa? He's well out of the picture for now, he's still fighting at feather. He's third in the WBC lightweight rankings so I assumed he must have stated his intention tio jump up ?// well i hear if he knocks out ponce this weekend he'll win the vacant WBC lightweight belt! I think you're having a laugh but if not then it's madness. They're both featherweights and the fight is at the featherweight limit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littleman370 Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Gamboa? He's well out of the picture for now, he's still fighting at feather. He's third in the WBC lightweight rankings so I assumed he must have stated his intention tio jump up ?// well i hear if he knocks out ponce this weekend he'll win the vacant WBC lightweight belt! I think you're having a laugh but if not then it's madness. They're both featherweights and the fight is at the featherweight limit. yes i was having a laugh, but forgot to add my favorite mlol/ gamboa hasn't yet stated any real intention to go up to lightweight. but even if he had, how the hell could he immediately be number 3!?!?!? i'm starting to think that the sanctioning bodies just do this to see if people read their rankings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAZZ-MCFC Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Gamboa? He's well out of the picture for now, he's still fighting at feather. He's third in the WBC lightweight rankings so I assumed he must have stated his intention tio jump up ?// well i hear if he knocks out ponce this weekend he'll win the vacant WBC lightweight belt! I think you're having a laugh but if not then it's madness. They're both featherweights and the fight is at the featherweight limit. yes i was having a laugh, but forgot to add my favorite mlol/ gamboa hasn't yet stated any real intention to go up to lightweight. but even if he had, how the hell could he immediately be number 3!?!?!? i'm starting to think that the sanctioning bodies just do this to see if people read their rankings I love Gamboa, i have no doubts that he could be a world champion if he went to 135, but the simple fact is, he isn't yet. He's stated his plans to move up in the future but only after he's cleaned up at feather, which still means taking on Chris John and Juanma, regardless of whether or not Salido already beat him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donlevy Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 I was a little surprised when I read Burns was going to fight a legitimate opponent.Not really surprised they pulled out and I dont believe weight was an issue for even a second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshDevilRob Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 If he doesn't fight Broner then he just looks scared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheelchair Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 From BBC Sport....... Scotland's WBO super-featherweight champion Ricky Burns may be about to relinquish his title. The 28-year-old is in discussions about moving up to lightweight and fighting for a second world crown. It had been reported that Burns was to make his fourth title defence in the United States against mandatory challenger Adrien Broner in November. But Burns' manager Alex Morrison says nothing has been signed and that his fighter may instead give up the belt. "My worry is Ricky making the weight," explained Morrison. "It gets more difficult for fighters to keep making the 9st, 4lbs mark as they get older. Ricky is now 28 and it was always the plan for him to move up to lightweight." Fighting at lightweight would see Burns, from Coatbridge, enter the ring five pounds heavier. And Morrison believes his fighter wants to avoid the problems that other Scottish world champions have had with weight. "Look at Alex Arthur and the problems he had with making his mark," he added. "It was a big factor in Scott Harrison's downfall too. I've spoken to [promoter Frank] Warren about my concerns and he agrees with me. Money isn't everything" On the subject of a proposed defence of Burns' WBO belt in Cincinnati at the end of November, Morrison said: "Nothing is signed or sealed but I am advising him against the fight. "Ricky is on the verge of taking my advice and saying no. I would like him to relinquish the (super-featherweight) belt and move up to win a second world title." Morrison insisted that Burns would fight again this year regardless of whether or not he moved up a division. Frank not interested in money? I had to laugh. warren// would sell his own Grandma for a torn fiver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donlevy Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 A little convenient that they would come to the conclusion that the weight was a little too much to make just as they were forced to fight their most dangerous opponent since winning the belt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Galveston Giant Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Very sad situation, just wish they hadn't pretended they were interested and had us all excited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_budweiser Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 In all the interviews I've heard from Ricky over the years I cant recall one saying he struggled to make the weight or wanted to move up. Ricky is an ambitous fighter, he may not have the skill to succeed but he has the heart and determination to atleast try, if i was Ricky I'd at least have aword with his promoter and manager as he was so determined to reign in his division and unify it as well as trying to earn the ring magazine belt as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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