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    --- The mealy mouth WBC says it's only unofficial to monitor a fighter so he doesn't gain more than 10% of his division limit, but really, the abc/commish suits are making a mess out of what is a simple sport.

    Just wait until they get sued after a ring disaster because the fighter couldn't fully hydrate. What's next, big punchers having to wear extra padding and fleet footed get clumsy, clodhopper footwear, ect?

    Boxing News: WBC adds extra fight-day weigh-in >> November 6, 2018

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    Re: WBC Initiates Same Day Weighin

    Conversely, you could argue its a halfway house BACK to where we should be with same-day weigh ins anyway. Boxers are using diuretics to get down to their 'fighting weight' for the day-before weigh in and then rehydrating ~2-3, sometimes ~4 weight divisions upward to gain an unfair advantage. With this system if they've gained more than 10% the fight's off. Hopefully, this will force boxers to accept their true 'fighting weight'.

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      Re: WBC Initiates Same Day Weighin

      They are not first - IBF is using it for a while now, couple years I believe.
      One thing that I see as important - is for every major governing body to have the same rules. Makes no sense for me if fighter can be effective at certain weight under WBA and WBO, but not under WBC and IBF...

      I think something should be done about the issue of guys cutting all that weight, but I don't think it's the best way... guys will most likely still cut the same weight - or at least try before They get burned with it - and just won't rehydrate properly. I didn't see a big wave of IBF champions suddenly changing division, but I heard about fighters who were finding it harder - like Montiel, Jacobs and Brook...

      Not sure if You guys heard about it - but with this problem being even bigger in MMA and Wrestling - there are some organisations who implemented a new system that apparently sloved the issue - not allowing guys to step on the scales rehydrated:


      I heard that They do it in wrestling also. This is something that I wish was brought up to governing bodies and boxing commisions.
      If there's no loophole in it that I'm not aware of or didn't hear of - it would solve issue completely. Fighters could weigh in the morning/mid-day of the fight again, They would have rehydration tests so You'd know They are not in more danger due to brain rehydration that seems to be biggest issue with same-day weigh-in today... Perfect scenario, right?

      Interesting implications would be that most champions would have to move-up, so it would really shake things up, probably 105 division would have to be removed since We'd be left with only some Philippino teenagers being able to make that weight, a lot of Cruiserweights wouldn't be able to make 200... so maybe adding another weight class (Let's say 175-190-210) would be necessary to not put some guys at disadvantage at Heavyweight...
      ...anyway, wish someone brought that up at convention. Could be real revolution.

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        Re: WBC Initiates Same Day Weighin

        --- Any weight cutting sport whether fighters, 'rasslers, jockeys, ect have used diuretics, laxatives, starvation, liquid withholding, saunas, and extra exercise to make their weighin.

        Day before weighins were designed to get a fighter an extra day to rehydrate. It's obvious that if they deny this basic right to a fighter then they have lost the plot. My answer would be an automatic move to the next division for any missed weight and most of the problem is solved. They still have to do those things, but to a lesser extreme.

        The WBC proposes dressing room weighins and hour before the fight, just dumb and dumber when the fighter and team are trying to get mentally set. For El Puerco Suliman, cutting weight is beyond his capacity.

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          Re: WBC Initiates Same Day Weighin

          Originally posted by selij View Post
          Conversely, you could argue its a halfway house BACK to where we should be with same-day weigh ins anyway. Boxers are using diuretics to get down to their 'fighting weight' for the day-before weigh in and then rehydrating ~2-3, sometimes ~4 weight divisions upward to gain an unfair advantage. With this system if they've gained more than 10% the fight's off. Hopefully, this will force boxers to accept their true 'fighting weight'.

          I agree that it's a good thing.


          Only problem is, what happens when it's a main event, with $millions generated by PPV, the venue paid for, the fans all nestled in their hotel rooms after flying in, and then one guy rehydrates 12%? Are they really going to terminate the fight?

          If the fight goes on, but without the belt on the line, the outcome could still be permanently unfair (even dangerous) to the other fighter, so that's not a solution, either.
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          What I've always said is that weigh ins should start about 1 week before the fight. If a fighter can't make weight at that point, and keep it off until the opening bell, then he ins't fighting in the right division.

          Plus, with a week to go, a fighter that misses weight could be given some kind of compromise second chance, like for instance: he has 2 more days to make weight, at which point the fight goes on, but without the belt on the line, and 50% of that fighter's puse gets confiscated and used to pay for universal PEDs testing.

          And if fatty can't make weight by fight day, the fight is off, and his management should be on the hook for all losses suffered by the promotor and the venue.
          Last edited by Cableaddict; 11-06-2018, 11:03 PM.

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            Re: WBC Initiates Same Day Weighin

            --- So, you'd starve the fighters for an extra week to solve the weight gain dilemma?

            I say throw em in the clink that last week and feed them nothing but a bowl of Dicken's gruel every day to properly put them in frothing fighting trim.

            Or alternately eliminate the Jr and Sr divisions to return to the original open division. Maybe Ironboy Calderon coulda out pointed Valuev, but how are we to know without granting him his opportunity, ahem, assuming he'd take up the challenge?

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            • #7
              Re: WBC Initiates Same Day Weighin

              Originally posted by LondonRingRules View Post
              --- So, you'd starve the fighters for an extra week to solve the weight gain dilemma?

              Just the opposite. This would force them to NOT starve themselves, and fight in the correct weight class.


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              Originally posted by LondonRingRules View Post
              --- .... Or alternately eliminate the Jr and Sr divisions to return to the original open division.
              Now you're talkin' !

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              • #8
                Re: WBC Initiates Same Day Weighin

                Originally posted by selij View Post
                Conversely, you could argue its a halfway house BACK to where we should be with same-day weigh ins anyway. Boxers are using diuretics to get down to their 'fighting weight' for the day-before weigh in and then rehydrating ~2-3, sometimes ~4 weight divisions upward to gain an unfair advantage. With this system if they've gained more than 10% the fight's off. Hopefully, this will force boxers to accept their true 'fighting weight'.
                This is precisely spot on. The practice to boil down weight so much as to become a potential medical issue is the real issue and steps like this should be taken to eliminate or at least discourage the practice.

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                  Re: WBC Initiates Same Day Weighin

                  Originally posted by Cableaddict View Post
                  What I've always said is that weigh ins should start about 1 week before the fight. If a fighter can't make weight at that point, and keep it off until the opening bell, then he ins't fighting in the right division.
                  While the sentiment is good, this isn't realistically workable is it? Who's going to foot the bill for the people conducting the weigh in a week earlier, fees to host the weigh in (even if its not a public weigh in they need to pay for a hotel room or something).

                  Fighters might still be in their home towns til only a few days before the fight, so the people doing the official weigh ins would need to fly to wherever that may be.

                  Logically it's not going to happen.

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