WelshDevilRob Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Andre Ward vs Nathan Cleverly possible for July by Rob Day Andre Ward vs Nathan Cleverly possible for July - - Boxing News - Ring News24 -------------------------------- If it does happen, who wins and Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavpowell Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Re: Andre Ward vs Nathan Cleverly possible for July Well this can only be explained as a clear example of him mishearing the fans, so I'll help: Andre, it's spelled K-o-v-a-l-e-v. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshDevilRob Posted May 7, 2016 Author Share Posted May 7, 2016 Re: Andre Ward vs Nathan Cleverly possible for July Well this can only be explained as a clear example of him mishearing the fans, so I'll help: Andre, it's spelled K-o-v-a-l-e-v. That fight is already signed but not happening til November. Kovalev has a fight in July. Ward wants another fight rather than sit around waiting. See no harm in him fighting another contest at the weight, he's only had one. (Smith was at 172lbs I think and Paul is no Light Heavyweight). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavpowell Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Re: Andre Ward vs Nathan Cleverly possible for July That fight is already signed but not happening til November. Kovalev has a fight in July. Ward wants another fight rather than sit around waiting. See no harm in him fighting another contest at the weight, he's only had one. (Smith was at 172lbs I think and Paul is no Light Heavyweight). I see no harm in him taking on some proper world-class opponents at the weight, but I'm also sick of this modern love of "tune-up fights" - he's not going to face anyone who's likely to test him because he doesn't want to blow the Kovalev fight(which should still go ahead but probably wouldn't). If the opponent's not going to test him, what's he tuning except his bank balance? Kovalev is equally annoying for stalling - he said openly he wants to test himself against Ward, so get on with it, before one of you picks up an injury/contractual dispute/mandatory/whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonRingRules Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Re: Andre Ward vs Nathan Cleverly possible for July --- Always thought Clev sorta blew what could have been a much better career with poor development, but he'd be a live dog in this. The Son of Gollum was bothered plenty by Barrera who while very strong, was also fairly basic. Always thought someone who could aggravate Ward in the prefight and then use hit and run tactics on him to negate his fouling would make him look bad rather than him thinking he can just win a fight by making someone look bad. Plus he's got no power, so Clev could survive any big shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshDevilRob Posted May 7, 2016 Author Share Posted May 7, 2016 Re: Andre Ward vs Nathan Cleverly possible for July I see no harm in him taking on some proper world-class opponents at the weight, but I'm also sick of this modern love of "tune-up fights" - he's not going to face anyone who's likely to test him because he doesn't want to blow the Kovalev fight(which should still go ahead but probably wouldn't). If the opponent's not going to test him, what's he tuning except his bank balance? Kovalev is equally annoying for stalling - he said openly he wants to test himself against Ward, so get on with it, before one of you picks up an injury/contractual dispute/mandatory/whatever. Cleverly gave a good account of himself against Fonfara - was a close fight. There aren't too many World class Light Heavyweights floating around (Pascal, Fonfara). Ward has a 3 fight deal with HBO, has fought twice and the Kovalev fight is the third. I agree I would like to see Kovalev vs Ward next but as "Krusher" has got another fight lined-up, I see no harm in a still looking rusty, or deteriorating, Andre taking on a capable 175lb boxer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavpowell Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Re: Andre Ward vs Nathan Cleverly possible for July Cleverly gave a good account of himself against Fonfara - was a close fight. There aren't too many World class Heavyweights floating around (Pascal, Fonfara). Ward has a 3 fight deal with HBO, has fought twice and the Kovalev fight is the third. I agree I would like to see Kovalev vs Ward next but as "Krusher" has got another fight lined-up, I see no harm in a still looking rusty, or deteriorating, Andre taking on a capable 175lb boxer. Fair enough I suppose - I didn't watch Cleverly-Fonfara, though Ward didn't look particularly rusty to me against Barrera, and certainly not deteriorating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_budweiser Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Re: Andre Ward vs Nathan Cleverly possible for July I'm sure Rob will be excited this is happening but I think it's a no win fight for Cleverly. I think Clev deserves credit for taking the fight and hopefully it's a good pay day for him. I agree with LRR, Cleverly should be having a much better career at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cableaddict Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Re: Andre Ward vs Nathan Cleverly possible for July I see no harm in him taking on some proper world-class opponents at the weight, but I'm also sick of this modern love of "tune-up fights" - he's not going to face anyone who's likely to test him because he doesn't want to blow the Kovalev fight(which should still go ahead but probably wouldn't). If the opponent's not going to test him, what's he tuning except his bank balance? Kovalev is equally annoying for stalling - he said openly he wants to test himself against Ward, so get on with it, before one of you picks up an injury/contractual dispute/mandatory/whatever. Would you rather Ward just sit around and get cold? Would you rather Ward fight Stevenson, get KO'd and then never face Kovalev? (and neither would Stevenson.) Cleverly is a decent fight, especially considering that Ward is still mostly unproven at LHW. Plus, to answer you specific question, Ward gets a reason to train hard. There are very few athletes with the mindset of floyd or Wlad- willing to always stay in 100% condition, and you can't blame them because it's bloody HARD to do that, at world-class level. As for Sergey "stalling" this bout, I have no idea what you're talking about. When did he ever delay it it any way? Can you show us some article or interview where this is evident? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavpowell Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 (edited) Re: Andre Ward vs Nathan Cleverly possible for July Would you rather Ward just sit around and get cold? No, I'd rather he fought Kovalev instead of wasting time on "tune-ups" or getting injured, or engaging in protracted contract disputes. As for Sergey "stalling" this bout, I have no idea what you're talking about. When did he ever delay it it any way? Can you show us some article or interview where this is evident? "Do a little research. the answers to these questions will shock you." Edited May 7, 2016 by gavpowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerald Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Re: Andre Ward vs Nathan Cleverly possible for July This is an interesting one - not entirely sure how good a fight like this is in terms of preparation for Kovalev given their contrasting styles. Perhaps it's more about settling into the weight and knocking some more of the rust off though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1SILVA Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 Re: Andre Ward vs Nathan Cleverly possible for July Nice matchup before his epic battle with Sergei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamcanavan Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 Re: Andre Ward vs Nathan Cleverly possible for July I like it, Ward should win comfortably but he got tagged enough vs Barrera and Cleverly is busy enough to at least make this entertaining Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Ortega Nieto Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 Re: Andre Ward vs Nathan Cleverly possible for July It is a very good fight but Ward is not interested in giving too many facilities to Cleverly weight, we can not forget that English has been champion in light heavyweight. I still see favorite Ward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
repsac Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Re: Andre Ward vs Nathan Cleverly possible for July Ward should win this easily. But Cleverly will make him work for the W. Good lead up fight to hopefully Kovalev in the fall or winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavpowell Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Re: Andre Ward vs Nathan Cleverly possible for July It is a very good fight but Ward is not interested in giving too many facilities to Cleverly weight, we can not forget that English has been champion in light heavyweight. I still see favorite Ward Welsh, not English :nono: - in fact the Welsh probably go out of their way to be different to the English on account of being oppressed for centuries... Also, while Cleverly was WBO champion, he was basically a paper champ - got his belt without fighting for it, had some pretty soft defences and then got smashed to pieces by Kovalev. I really can't see Cleverly having any success against Ward, but if he does, I'm making Kovalev favourite in November. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pittbox Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Re: Andre Ward vs Nathan Cleverly possible for July Barrera is a better boxer than Cleverly in my opinion, so I don't expect a very good fight for Ward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Layton Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 Re: Andre Ward vs Nathan Cleverly possible for July never heard about this at all, don't think Clev would win, he would give Ward a good fight though imo, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxingbruiser2015 Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 Re: Andre Ward vs Nathan Cleverly possible for July Now this will be an awesome match if it ever happens. I really could not predict who would win this one. Although I am more inclined towards Ward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarke28 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Re: Andre Ward vs Nathan Cleverly possible for July could be announced by end of this week tune up before we see Ward vs Kovalev end of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxeador Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Re: Andre Ward vs Nathan Cleverly possible for July I don´t see this fight appropiate for Ward on his way to avoid Kovalev´s bombs. Cleverly is a soft puncher. Just a fight to stay busy for Ward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshDevilRob Posted May 28, 2016 Author Share Posted May 28, 2016 Re: Andre Ward vs Nathan Cleverly possible for July The fight on July 30th would be at the Oracle Arena in Ward’s hometown of Oakland. HBO are happy and Matchroom have received the offer and both the promoter and fighter are happy with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamcanavan Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Re: Andre Ward vs Nathan Cleverly possible for July Decent enough fight for Ward. A busy, big light heavy to make him work. Good prep for Kovalev minus the power really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
repsac Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Re: Andre Ward vs Nathan Cleverly possible for July Lets be serious. Do we actually want Ward to face a big puncher just to prepare him for Sergei, or do we just want to see him get knocked out before entering the ring with Krusher? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strikehearts Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 Re: Andre Ward vs Nathan Cleverly possible for July Ward agains't Cleverly why? How does this get him ready for Kovalev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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