RAZZ-MCFC Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 opened this poll after somebody asked the question on James' article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheelchair Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 My favourite is Hearns, but the best of the four would have to be Leonard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donlevy Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 He's not my favourite of the bunch,but Duran's overall accomplishments outweigh the other three.Hearns,Leonard and Hagler all defined each others career while Duran had already established himself as an ATG before he even fought any of them.You have his great lightweight reign then wins over Leonard,Palomino,barkley,Mamby and Cuevas. And yes,my avatar is a great one boxing// Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAZZ-MCFC Posted October 27, 2010 Author Share Posted October 27, 2010 i've seen that photo before mate loved it the first time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juaasu Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 Hello, I asked for it, my vote goes to Sugar Ray, but really difficult to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAZZ-MCFC Posted October 27, 2010 Author Share Posted October 27, 2010 Hello, I asked for it, my vote goes to Sugar Ray, but really difficult to know. ok sorry mate wasn't sure who and i'm lazy so couldn't be bothered checking haha i agree with you anyway, resume and legacy it has to be SRl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapevine241 Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 duran > leonard > hagler > hearns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheelchair Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 Just looking at the four fighters records against each other it's Leonard.... Leonard beat Hagler x1, Hearns x1, Duran x2. With 1 Draw vs Hearns and 1 Loss to Duran. Total is 4-1-1 Hagler beat Hearns x1, Duran x1 and lost to Leonard. Total is 2-1 Hearns beat Duran x1, lost to Hagler x1, and Leonard x1. Plus a Draw with Leonard. Total is 1-2-1 Duran beat Leonard x1 and lost to Hagler x1, Hearns x1 and Leonard x2. Total is 1-3 These figures of course do not take Duran's Lightweight domination into account. The same applies to Hagler, he dominated the middle's for years, but unlike Duran didn't capture multiple titles. Ranked on World titles the scores are... Leonard - WBC 147, WBC 147, WBA 154, WBA 147, WBC 160, WBC 168, WBC 175. Total is SEVEN titles. Hearns - WBA 147, WBC 154, WBC 175, WBC 160, WBO 168, WBA 175. Total is SIX titles. Duran WBA/WBC 135 WBC 147, WBA 154, WBC 160. Total is FIVE titles. Hagler - WBA/WBC/IBF 160. Total is THREE titles. Hearns is the odd one out amongst the above though as he was never an undisputed champion at any weight, unlike Leonard at Welter, Hagler at Middle and Duran at Lightweight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAZZ-MCFC Posted October 27, 2010 Author Share Posted October 27, 2010 Just looking at the four fighters records against each other it's Leonard.... Leonard beat Hagler x1, Hearns x1, Duran x2. With 1 Draw vs Hearns and 1 Loss to Duran. Total is 4-1-1 Hagler beat Hearns x1, Duran x1 and lost to Leonard. Total is 2-1 Hearns beat Duran x1, lost to Hagler x1, and Leonard x1. Plus a Draw with Leonard. Total is 1-2-1 Duran beat Leonard x1 and lost to Hagler x1, Hearns x1 and Leonard x2. Total is 1-3 These figures of course do not take Duran's Lightweight domination into account. The same applies to Hagler, he dominated the middle's for years, but unlike Duran didn't capture multiple titles. Ranked on World titles the scores are... Leonard - WBC 147, WBC 147, WBA 154, WBA 147, WBC 160, WBC 168, WBC 175. Total is SEVEN titles. Hearns - WBA 147, WBC 154, WBC 175, WBC 160, WBO 168, WBA 175. Total is SIX titles. Duran WBA/WBC 135 WBC 147, WBA 154, WBC 160. Total is FIVE titles. Hagler - WBA/WBC/IBF 160. Total is THREE titles. Hearns is the odd one out amongst the above though as he was never an undisputed champion at any weight, unlike Leonard at Welter, Hagler at Middle and Duran at Lightweight. thanks for the research James really interesting results, nice one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheelchair Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 All from memory, no googling involved! :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAZZ-MCFC Posted October 27, 2010 Author Share Posted October 27, 2010 All from memory, no googling involved! :-) i would've been able to name who beat who out of the 4 and by which method but no way could i of named the belts and how many times won Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheelchair Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 Well you were just a glint in your Dad's eye at the time Razz! glol/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAZZ-MCFC Posted October 27, 2010 Author Share Posted October 27, 2010 Well you were just a glint in your Dad's eye at the time Razz! glol/ not even that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheelchair Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 I'm not sure how we could scientifically measure your status at that time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAZZ-MCFC Posted October 27, 2010 Author Share Posted October 27, 2010 I'm not sure how we could scientifically measure your status at that time! just waiting for the right moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheelchair Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 grin// Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edsel77x Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 5. or all of the above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Walker Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 Who is the best? What is "best"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Top Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 Who is the best? What is "best"? Best as in who was the greatest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brooklynbrawler Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 Without taking their achievements into the equation, and simply answering the question "Who was the best?", despite the fact I don't like the guy, and he wouldn't be many people's pick, I go for Marvin Hagler. The guy was a complete all-rounder; Fast, powerful, tough as teak, and difficult to handle. Leonard was obviously the best boxer (skill) out of the lot of them, and Hearns and Duran are probably 2 of my favourite boxers ever, but being honest, Hagler seemed almost unstoppable in his prime. Leonard may hold a win over him, but it provided plenty of controversy at the time, and plenty of people had it the other way. I thought Leonard edged it, but it was close, either way. The other 3 all had their flaws, but it was difficult to pick one with Hagler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donlevy Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 I think in terms of pure boxing skills,Hearns was the best out of all four of them.Hearns was never outboxed in his entire career,even outboxing a prime Virgil Hill while being on the decline himself.Leonard needed alot of pressure and to absorb alot of punishment before getting to Hearns.Hagler,while normally a smooth boxer puncher type immediately jumped on Hearns and lured him into a brawl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telboy66 Posted October 29, 2010 Share Posted October 29, 2010 Robbed against Leonard Beat the other two out of site it can only be MARVELOUS MARVIN HAGLER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Walker Posted October 29, 2010 Share Posted October 29, 2010 Who is the best? What is "best"? Best as in who was the greatest. What is the criteria for determining and measuring "greatness"? I ask only because 99% of fans don't really know, they just like who they like. I like to uncover true answers to legitimate questions and avoid basing the response on popularity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Walker Posted October 29, 2010 Share Posted October 29, 2010 Without taking their achievements into the equation, and simply answering the question "Who was the best?", despite the fact I don't like the guy, and he wouldn't be many people's pick, I go for Marvin Hagler. The guy was a complete all-rounder; Fast, powerful, tough as teak, and difficult to handle. Leonard was obviously the best boxer (skill) out of the lot of them, and Hearns and Duran are probably 2 of my favourite boxers ever, but being honest, Hagler seemed almost unstoppable in his prime. Leonard may hold a win over him, but it provided plenty of controversy at the time, and plenty of people had it the other way. I thought Leonard edged it, but it was close, either way. The other 3 all had their flaws, but it was difficult to pick one with Hagler. There was one glaring if mostly unnoticed flaw....and both Duran and Leonard exposed it....in fact....Leonard banked on it. It would be the one flaw that Bernard Hopkins would zero in on and use to his advantage had these two ever met and competed in the same era. I won't list it just yet....but wonder who here can tell us all what it was> Anybody? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAZZ-MCFC Posted October 30, 2010 Author Share Posted October 30, 2010 Without taking their achievements into the equation, and simply answering the question "Who was the best?", despite the fact I don't like the guy, and he wouldn't be many people's pick, I go for Marvin Hagler. The guy was a complete all-rounder; Fast, powerful, tough as teak, and difficult to handle. Leonard was obviously the best boxer (skill) out of the lot of them, and Hearns and Duran are probably 2 of my favourite boxers ever, but being honest, Hagler seemed almost unstoppable in his prime. Leonard may hold a win over him, but it provided plenty of controversy at the time, and plenty of people had it the other way. I thought Leonard edged it, but it was close, either way. The other 3 all had their flaws, but it was difficult to pick one with Hagler. There was one glaring if mostly unnoticed flaw....and both Duran and Leonard exposed it....in fact....Leonard banked on it. It would be the one flaw that Bernard Hopkins would zero in on and use to his advantage had these two ever met and competed in the same era. I won't list it just yet....but wonder who here can tell us all what it was> Anybody? all i can think of is that he couldn't handle slick, technical boxers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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