robprosser Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Re: Fury confirms he's close to a deal to fight Wilder in December! --- nothing wrong with leaning on shorter, aggressive fighters charging hard that could result in a headbutt. Manny taught him holding, and yeah, after his death he became overly dependent on holding. Most have always discounted Fury as a blowhard, but clearly thru his career he utilized his immense size and underrated skills to great effect. Yeah, at an age older than Joe Louis he wasn't properly prepared for a Fury, but remember he'd been harassed for a couple of years by Briggs that he should have sought a restraining order on and the meltdown of his fiancé after the birth of their child, something that I defy you to replicate in your own life to examine the results. No matter, the Ks set records that will stand out in the annals of boxing. Well I've never had Shannon Briggs stalking and hope that I never do. Just to point out that I think the brothers were dominant champs and way better than everyone else during their era. My point was that Fury was a nightmare opponent for Wlad, to refute the claim that he "threw" the fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonRingRules Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Re: Fury confirms he's close to a deal to fight Wilder in December! --- In complete agreement there, a bit like Ali throwing the first Spinks fight so he could be the 3x champ when in fact no self respecting champ wants to be humiliated in the ring like those two were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe strong Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Re: Fury confirms he's close to a deal to fight Wilder in December! Exactly why I have said repeatedly, and honestly, firmly believe, that Wlad threw that fight. If you watch again, it's actually very obvious. There were plenty of times when Fury was wide open, and Wlad had his feet planted. He simply chose not to fire. We're talking about a fighter who had no "zero" to protect, who wanted to build interest in his somewhat boring career, and who would have LOVED to have become a three-time champion. The latter could only happen if he lost, then beat Fury in the rematch. (Not to mention how much money those "in the know" must have made, betting on Fury.) Fury simply screwed them all by taking the first win, then disappearing. Absolutely brilliant, actually. And for more proof, just watch Wlad vs AJ. It stuns me that guys who know the boxing game well can't see how obviously true this all is. The only obvious thing here is your disdain for Fury. He could have knocked Wlad out cold & you would claim it was a draw. The bottom line is Fury was the first guy who could nullify Wlad's arsenal. He had no plan B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe strong Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Re: Fury confirms he's close to a deal to fight Wilder in December! The biggest question I have if this fight happens is not Fury's inactivity or weight but his choice to replace Peter Fury as his trainer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavpowell Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Re: Fury confirms he's close to a deal to fight Wilder in December! :haha: I'm convinced you're just on a massive wind up now. You can't surely believe the stuff that you post?? :noidea: Given he told us repeatedly that Wladimir was clearly avoiding Joshua and would never fight him, of course he is it's why I largely leave him to it now, responding only when I've run out of Youtube comments to ridicule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonRingRules Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Re: Fury confirms he's close to a deal to fight Wilder in December! --- Hey, nothing wrong with some good grassy knoll auxiliary assassin. What else you gonna dicker over a cocktail party? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshDevilRob Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Re: Fury confirms he's close to a deal to fight Wilder in December! Think Warren is looking to cash out. I think Wilder has always been a bad match for Fury. If they fight in December, Deontay will splatter Luke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavpowell Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Re: Fury confirms he's close to a deal to fight Wilder in December! --- Hey, nothing wrong with some good grassy knoll auxiliary assassin. What else you gonna dicker over a cocktail party? I don't get invited to cocktail parties, and you wouldn't get invited back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonRingRules Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Re: Fury confirms he's close to a deal to fight Wilder in December! --- Iwould if I pleased the reigning available mistress, but I'm a bit picky when it comes to feminine persuasions after having been very happily married. I'd happily watch this from afar and pick Fury as long as he ain't a two weeks TBA like Deyonce feasts upon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoztheMadman Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Re: Fury confirms he's close to a deal to fight Wilder in December! --- Nobody really knows what Fury is ready for, maybe not even him. Certified loony tunes in the best of times, this sounds like a lotta smoke, what, Pianata takes step aside $? I do know journeymen TBA have had no problems outboxing Deyonce, the problem being lasting the distance. Hearn sleeping on Warren and Haymon? Where's Rockford to get to the bottom of this caper? Aye...what we know is that he won't run from Wilder, he's got the heart if anything. And his chin hasn't yet been cracked, so the fight should at least go 8 rounds. Only question is the stamina. Fury is still a young man, so no danger of him being washed up or shot in that way. He'll surely make it tough and rough for Wilder for 5-6 rounds at least. He's also the first fighter Wilder will face that is taller than him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syrianpitbull Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 Re: Fury confirms he's close to a deal to fight Wilder in December! Tyson is not ready for Wilder's smoke. I don't think this will end well if this fight happens this year. I can already envisage plenty of knockdowns before an eventual stoppage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ton Posted August 7, 2018 Author Share Posted August 7, 2018 Re: Fury confirms he's close to a deal to fight Wilder in December! Aye...what we know is that he won't run from Wilder, he's got the heart if anything. And his chin hasn't yet been cracked, so the fight should at least go 8 rounds. Only question is the stamina. Fury is still a young man, so no danger of him being washed up or shot in that way. He'll surely make it tough and rough for Wilder for 5-6 rounds at least. He's also the first fighter Wilder will face that is taller than him. Fury got dropped a few times (Well I remember at least once anyway) against some relatively light punchers on his way up as a "hot prospect", but it was clear he wasn't taking many of those fights/opponents seriously and he likely wasn't fully concentrating. And as for still a young man! He is just about still in his 20's, but lets not be fooled. He looks an old man, he's not had the easiest of lives and clearly had his issues these last few years. I think they in turn can be just as deliberating as age / shipping punishment in the ring a few times. He's been a professional fighter for 10 years, it's been quite a slog, and obviously a long lay off in there. But he isn't exactly a fresh fighter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cableaddict Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Re: Fury confirms he's close to a deal to fight Wilder in December! Yep. Remember the Cunningham fight? Wilder would paint the front row with Fury's brain matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonRingRules Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Re: Fury confirms he's close to a deal to fight Wilder in December! --- Ya musta forgot! In spite of having to fight without Peter in his corner, Tyson knocked USS clean out, the only ko loss of his career! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cableaddict Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Re: Fury confirms he's close to a deal to fight Wilder in December! --- Ya musta forgot! In spite of having to fight without Peter in his corner, Tyson knocked USS clean out, the only ko loss of his career! After being put down himself. And Ya'all musta forgot: Fury should have been DQ'ed, because he took out Cunningham by illegally shoving his arm into USS's face, then following that with a right hand. It's about as blatant a foul as there is. Of course, the ref said nothing......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cableaddict Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Re: Fury confirms he's close to a deal to fight Wilder in December! So there! :wave: ====================== Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robprosser Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Re: Fury confirms he's close to a deal to fight Wilder in December! Fury was also floored by Neven Pajkic and wobbled by Nicolai Firtha. I don't think the Fury chin is cast from iron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonRingRules Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Re: Fury confirms he's close to a deal to fight Wilder in December! --- Fun topic. Lessee, Ali decked by 190 Lb prospect Sonny Banks, and later by 170 Lb Henry Cooper who arguably KOed young Clay. Cooper had to wear weights to make weight. Tyson decked by a 235 lb prospect and a 210 lb championship fighter. Advantage Tyson... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robprosser Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Re: Fury confirms he's close to a deal to fight Wilder in December! --- Fun topic. Lessee, Ali decked by 190 Lb prospect Sonny Banks, and later by 170 Lb Henry Cooper who arguably KOed young Clay. Cooper had to wear weights to make weight. Tyson decked by a 235 lb prospect and a 210 lb championship fighter. Advantage Tyson... I think Cooper claimed to be 180lbs against Clay(who inarguably didn't get kayoed) and Clay was only 3lbs heavier than Banks when they fought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavpowell Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Re: Fury confirms he's close to a deal to fight Wilder in December! So this "Done deal, wooo!" has no date, no venue, and Fury has yet to apply for a Nevada or New York boxing licence, according to Sky. Warren ridiculed this, saying "Of course he hasn't applied for a licence yet - neither location has been confirmed yet so why would he apply for a licence there?" So about three months before the fight is supposedly taking place, there's no date, no venue, but apparently Wilder is fine with this. Boxing - you can keep it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cableaddict Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Re: Fury confirms he's close to a deal to fight Wilder in December! So this "Done deal, wooo!" has no date, no venue, and Fury has yet to apply for a Nevada or New York boxing licence, according to Sky. Warren ridiculed this, saying "Of course he hasn't applied for a licence yet - neither location has been confirmed yet so why would he apply for a licence there?" So about three months before the fight is supposedly taking place, there's no date, no venue, but apparently Wilder is fine with this. Boxing - you can keep it. Wilder not the sharpest knife in the drawer. but Al Haymon should know better. Same for Finkel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonRingRules Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Re: Fury confirms he's close to a deal to fight Wilder in December! --- Shirley Winkle? Yeah, that's her! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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