repsac Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Re: Tyson Fury vs Wladimir Klitschko 2 I'm still trying to decide if Tyson is a head case, or just getting into Wlad head. Need to re-watch that first fight. I remember thinking Fury won by a wide margin. Hearing now how some hard it rather close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ton Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Re: Tyson Fury vs Wladimir Klitschko 2 I'm still trying to decide if Tyson is a head case, or just getting into Wlad head. Need to re-watch that first fight. I remember thinking Fury won by a wide margin. Hearing now how some hard it rather close. He's clever never been all there!! :whistle: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cableaddict Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 (edited) Re: Tyson Fury vs Wladimir Klitschko 2 I can't believe some of you think this fight is on the level. I keep telling you what should be ridiculously obvious: (especially if you re-watch their first fight, with Wlad throwing the few punched he DID throw at only 2/3 his normal speed) Wlad is slated to win this one, so as to set up the third fight, which will bring in insane dollars. He threw the first one, thus making insane dollars for the bookies, the mob, and likely for everyone he told to bet on Fury. Wlad now gets to be a three-time champion. No biggie losing the first one since he wasn't undefeated, anyway. Tyson claims to not care, and is not training hard for fight #2, because he knows he will be losing. This is his pre-made excuse. Wlad will of course also win the third fight, making more money than floyd ever dreamed of, then retiring without ever having to face Wilder, or Ortiz (who lost his chance at Wlad due to a bullshit PEDs suspension, ahem.) Fury gets to retire with tens of millions in the bank, from a sport he never cared about anyway, also never having to face either Ortiz or Wilder. Everybody gets rich! Everybody gets happy! ----------- C'mon, people. Wake DA FUCK up. This isn't a conspiracy theory, it's common sense. Edited June 18, 2016 by Cableaddict Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonRingRules Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Re: Tyson Fury vs Wladimir Klitschko 2 --- Oh brother, mo'money than TUE now is it? Sweet dreams in Candyland more likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zute Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 Re: Tyson Fury vs Wladimir Klitschko 2 Glad this fight is going to happen soon, will be interesting to see how the rest of the division falls into place when this is over. If Wilder beat Chris, I would love to see him take on the winner of this one, however, if Wlad wins, do we get a trilogy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cableaddict Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Re: Tyson Fury vs Wladimir Klitschko 2 --- Oh brother, mo'money than TUE now is it? Sweet dreams in Candyland more likely. mo'money, mo'money, mo'money, mo'money, mo'money, mo'money .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pittbox Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Re: Tyson Fury vs Wladimir Klitschko 2 If Wlad wins this by close decision, then we're expected to watch never ending story of their fights. Only Fury by KO can save us from this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ton Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Re: Tyson Fury vs Wladimir Klitschko 2 I can't believe some of you think this fight is on the level. I keep telling you what should be ridiculously obvious: (especially if you re-watch their first fight, with Wlad throwing the few punched he DID throw at only 2/3 his normal speed) Wlad is slated to win this one, so as to set up the third fight, which will bring in insane dollars. He threw the first one, thus making insane dollars for the bookies, the mob, and likely for everyone he told to bet on Fury. Wlad now gets to be a three-time champion. No biggie losing the first one since he wasn't undefeated, anyway. Tyson claims to not care, and is not training hard for fight #2, because he knows he will be losing. This is his pre-made excuse. Wlad will of course also win the third fight, making more money than floyd ever dreamed of, then retiring without ever having to face Wilder, or Ortiz (who lost his chance at Wlad due to a bullshit PEDs suspension, ahem.) Fury gets to retire with tens of millions in the bank, from a sport he never cared about anyway, also never having to face either Ortiz or Wilder. Everybody gets rich! Everybody gets happy! ----------- C'mon, people. Wake DA FUCK up. This isn't a conspiracy theory, it's common sense. :haha: Why doesn't Wlad just face him 3 times and win each one instead? Makes more sense than throwing a fight and costing a loss! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavpowell Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Re: Tyson Fury vs Wladimir Klitschko 2 He threw the first one, thus making insane dollars for the bookies, the mob, and likely for everyone he told to bet on Fury. If this were going to happen, it would surely be easier and a hell of a lot more profitable to do it vs Jennings or Thompson? We know the Americans are desperate to reclaim the heavyweight championship, it would also greatly increase the likelihood of championship bouts being held in Vegas, which only exists because of Mob money in the first place. It would also be even more dramatic if it were the fight where Klitschko had to win to break Louis's record - fairytale endings all round. Wlad's chin, though not terrible, is perceived as being terrible - one convincing shot, he conveniently falls down and can't manage to beat the count. What a story. So why would he choose to throw the fight against the annoying British guy and do it via a points decision in one of the least exciting fights in heavyweight history? And I don't know where you get the idea Fury doesn't care for boxing - from the early days of his career he's sought to challenge himself and had good scraps - that doesn't suggest disinterest to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cableaddict Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Re: Tyson Fury vs Wladimir Klitschko 2 :haha: Why doesn't Wlad just face him 3 times and win each one instead? Makes more sense than throwing a fight and costing a loss! What are you talking about? He had to lose the first one in order for there to be a trilogy. Heck, He had to lose the first one in order for there to be a a rematch. (And so avoid Wilder & Ortiz) Also, losing the first fight made a small fortune for everyone that knew it was going to happen. This 'aint rocket surgery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cableaddict Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Re: Tyson Fury vs Wladimir Klitschko 2 And I don't know where you get the idea Fury doesn't care for boxing - from the early days of his career he's sought to challenge himself and had good scraps - that doesn't suggest disinterest to me. He has said repeatedly, and for many years, that he doesn't even like the sport, but just does it for the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cableaddict Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 (edited) Re: Tyson Fury vs Wladimir Klitschko 2 If this were going to happen, it would surely be easier and a hell of a lot more profitable to do it vs Jennings or Thompson? . Easier? What's easier than fighting Fury, who has low skill and very little power? Thompson is a tricky old bastard who might just pull a rabbit out of a hat. Jennings, while not all that good, is a decent inside fighter with a very respectable punch. Additionally, both men are American, and Wlad doesn't want too much attention from the USA casuals, because then there might be pressure for him to fight Wilder before he retires. Wlad don't want none of Wilder, I guarantee it. More money? No one gives a fuk about Jennings or Thompson. Fury is a "love 'im or hate 'im" HUGE media draw. This whole thing is a circus, and Tyson Fury is the dancing bear. Edited June 21, 2016 by Cableaddict Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavpowell Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 (edited) Re: Tyson Fury vs Wladimir Klitschko 2 Easier? What's easier than fighting Fury, who has low skill and very little power? Thompson is a tricky old bastard who might just pull a rabbit out of a hat. Jennings, while not all that good, is a decent inside fighter with a very respectable punch. Additionally, both men are American, and Wlad doesn't want too much attention from the USA casuals More money? No one gives a fuk about Jennings or Thompson. Fury is a "love 'im or hate 'im" HUGE media draw. This whole thing is a circus, and Tyson Fury is the dancing bear. He already fought Jennings and Thompson, and your argument is it's all about money and fixing results, so in which case he's more likely to have got better money from the American Mafia and Las Vegas casinos than he is from the Brits. If he loses to an American, the titles return to America and the centre of heavyweight boxing shifts back to Vegas - bonanza! Wlad walks away with a vanload of money and the American fixers can keep passing the title around between each other, like in the good old days. Wlad doesn't want US attention? Signing a deal with HBO and fighting in the middle of New York is a damn strange way to keep a low profile! And why would Wlad be scared of Wilder at this stage? Wilder has displayed a dubious chin of his own and is not exactly defensively gifted, so at the moment he's just a gangly guy with a big punch who hasn't beaten anyone of note. And of course even if Wlad loses to Wilder, he'd get the same situation you say will happen with Fury - rematch qand rubber match, loadsa money. In America! Edited June 21, 2016 by gavpowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavpowell Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Re: Tyson Fury vs Wladimir Klitschko 2 He has said repeatedly, and for many years, that he doesn't even like the sport, but just does it for the money. He's said all sorts of bullshit over the years! He's said it's all about money but then says he turned down $120 million, said he won't fight Haye even for £10 million because it's not about money, said he believes homosexual and transgender people to be harbingers of the apocalypse, then said he never meant to offend anyone, didn't mean it, then said it again. This explains a great deal though - if you believe the words out of a boxer's mouth, you really will believe anything! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odhranc14 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Re: Tyson Fury vs Wladimir Klitschko 2 Serious talk of this fight not taking place! Peter Fury spoke on Twitter in recent days about fighting outside of the ring between lawyers? I want an announcement one way or another soon! What does everyone think will it take place or not? If it does who wins and if not where next for both men. my opinion is another Fury win and I would want the Wilder fight next! If it doesn't happen I would still want Wilder-Fury but Wlad to retire! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ike Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 Re: Tyson Fury vs Wladimir Klitschko 2 I wonder what will change in this rematch, the only answer I can give me is that Klitschko, knowing they will not be able to count on his reach, can try to knock out Fury. But the Ukrainian boxer's jaw is not very durable, so if Wladimir take risk can go Ko. I say that the most likely solution is another victory Fury on points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavpowell Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 Re: Tyson Fury vs Wladimir Klitschko 2 But the Ukrainian boxer's jaw is not very durable, so if Wladimir take risk can go Ko. It's not a great chin, certainly, but he's only ever been KOed by proper heavyweight punchers landing serious shots on him - I doubt Fury has the power to flatten him, whereas we know Wlad has the power to flatten Fury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonRingRules Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 Re: Tyson Fury vs Wladimir Klitschko 2 --- Fury melting down in his prvt life hasn't shown he even wants to complete another training camp. Meanwhile, Wlad missy still off her rocker and may not even be able to care for their newborn, a great champ on an all time streak derailed by a tiny wisp of 100 lbs of pure girl. Such is why old time trainers abhorred any women in training camps as too distracting and emotionally draining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ike Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 Re: Tyson Fury vs Wladimir Klitschko 2 It's not a great chin, certainly, but he's only ever been KOed by proper heavyweight punchers landing serious shots on him - I doubt Fury has the power to flatten him, whereas we know Wlad has the power to flatten Fury. I respect your idea but we have different opinions, it's true that the knockout suffered by Wladimir have been against boxers from the heavy punch, but I believe that the power of Fury is enough to defeat Klitschko by Ko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshDevilRob Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 Re: Tyson Fury vs Wladimir Klitschko 2 Wlad said in the Boxnation 'face-off' that he would be revealing some problem, that he'd had going into their first fight. Haven't seen anything yet. I suspect he carried some kind of injury into the contest. The original fight had been put back due to an injury and given his age, it's a realistic possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshDevilRob Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 Re: Tyson Fury vs Wladimir Klitschko 2 --- Fury melting down in his prvt life hasn't shown he even wants to complete another training camp. Meanwhile, Wlad missy still off her rocker and may not even be able to care for their newborn, a great champ on an all time streak derailed by a tiny wisp of 100 lbs of pure girl. Such is why old time trainers abhorred any women in training camps as too distracting and emotionally draining. This must've been the distraction going into the last fight. Is she in an ******? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavpowell Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 Re: Tyson Fury vs Wladimir Klitschko 2 This must've been the distraction going into the last fight. Is she in an ******? She's suffering with postpartum depression, so it's obviously serious but hardly "off her rocker" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ton Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Re: Tyson Fury vs Wladimir Klitschko 2 Not seen or heard of anything of these lately, but all the noises Fury were making wasn't promising. Wlad will really need to switch up from his usual MO which really didn't work last time.....He needs to be more attacking, which may not be easy for him to do after being so cautious all these years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GianMan Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Re: Tyson Fury vs Wladimir Klitschko 2 Something tells me Klitschko is gonna win this rematch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cableaddict Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 Re: Tyson Fury vs Wladimir Klitschko 2 Something tells me Klitschko is gonna win this rematch Of course he is. It's in the script. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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